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Title: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Runout on January 09, 2018, 02:39:04 PM
Anyone know if Resurrection Wall P1 is likely to be dry by Sunday? Hasn't been raining that much except past 48 hours.

Thanks
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Brad Young on January 09, 2018, 02:50:59 PM
That is the one pitch of that thing that tends to stay wet, Tony. It's very mossy and not as well sheltered as the rest of the climb. I'd be very surprised if it were dry by Sunday (with what now, two inches of rain down there).

On the other hand, the bolts are replaced and would hold a fall if you slipped on wet terrain ;)
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: mynameismud on January 09, 2018, 05:06:53 PM
wow, 2 inches of rain. 
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Runout on January 09, 2018, 07:40:34 PM
Do you recall if P1 is climbable when wet?
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Brad Young on January 09, 2018, 08:03:27 PM

Do you recall if P1 is climbable when wet?


Not to be too much of a smart-ass, but yes, I recall: wet it's "scary, slippery 5.9" instead of "normal 5.9."

I'm usually pretty comfortable on Pinnacles 5.9, and the one time I led that pitch damp, I pulled on draws (but the bolts are far enough apart that that's not much help). It was unpleasant, but I reached the anchor.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: clink on January 09, 2018, 09:51:55 PM

 It's slick as snot wet. Fly like an eagle.

 Somebody should do the direct finish up the last of the main water chute. There looked to me that a #11 hex might fit between the huge loadstone and an adjoining one.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Runout on January 12, 2018, 09:43:52 AM
Balconies it is. 5.11a vs 5.11a + wet approach pitch.

Anyone know if any of the 11's (No Sense of Measure, Powers that Be, Electric Blue) have seen traffic/cleaned up recently? Wondering if anyone's done dirt clod removal this season on any of them.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Brad Young on January 12, 2018, 10:16:33 AM

Wondering if anyone's done dirt clod removal this season on any of them.


Tony,

I am sincerely worried about your view of Pinnacles. Dirt clods? OMFG, everyone knows that those routes don't have dirt clods.

Perhaps I could suggest some nice warm granite? Or, I've got it, how about an outdoor gym not so far from Sonora that is utterly filled with nice, pleasant climbers?  ;)  ;)
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: mungeclimber on January 12, 2018, 10:22:27 AM
Balconies closed for raptors, no?  But I forget if the boundaries have limits on either end or p1s or not.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: clink on January 12, 2018, 10:35:20 AM
We are doomed.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Brad Young on January 12, 2018, 11:14:24 AM

Balconies closed for raptors, no?  But I forget if the boundaries have limits on either end or p1s or not.


Not closed until this coming Tuesday.

I'm certain of this since I'm climbing Monday on The Balconies with Gavin  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: mungeclimber on January 12, 2018, 11:23:11 AM
Thx. Was thinking 6th, but its the 16th.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Brad Young on January 12, 2018, 11:28:07 AM

Thx. Was thinking 6th, but its the 16th.


Yes, my dad's 83rd birthday (hoping to go over and take him to lunch that day).
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Runout on January 12, 2018, 01:18:02 PM
I grew up climbing Pinns West on dirt clods. It's like ice climbing without all the gear and slightly worse pro. And it keeps the crowds away! What's not to love?

In fairness, the Balconies less traveled lines are the only ones I've had to do dirt clod removal. On Machete, the trick is to put the rock back where it broke off from. Citadel doesn't have so many people below, so just let the rock fly. Until the rebolt on Resurrection it seemed like you had to make sure not to accidentally break off bolts.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Runout on January 12, 2018, 02:12:59 PM
Edit: It used to be like having worse pro than an ice route. But don't go telling too many people about the new fat shiny bolts.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: mynameismud on January 12, 2018, 03:36:25 PM
Balconies should be good.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: clink on January 12, 2018, 05:49:23 PM
Quote
I grew up climbing Pinns West on dirt clods.

 Part of this statement is true for me as well.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Brad Young on January 12, 2018, 09:04:56 PM

I grew up climbing Pinns West on dirt clods. It's like ice climbing without all the gear and slightly worse pro. And it keeps the crowds away! What's not to love?

In fairness, the Balconies less traveled lines are the only ones I've had to do dirt clod removal. On Machete, the trick is to put the rock back where it broke off from. Citadel doesn't have so many people below, so just let the rock fly. Until the rebolt on Resurrection it seemed like you had to make sure not to accidentally break off bolts.


The funny thing about rockfall at Pinns is how much some people mention it. And in mentioning it there's always the implied idea that that much superior rock, granite, doesn't suffer from this extreme flaw (sometimes the idea isn't implied - it's stated expressly, and then often with an air of assumed superiority).

And then El Cap cuts loose with a 16 foot thick, football field sized rock that kills a guy.

Rockfall at Pinnacles? Dangerous? My lily-white ass  ::)


Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: mungeclimber on January 13, 2018, 10:40:53 AM

Rockfall at Pinnacles? Dangerous? My lily-white ass  ::)


Much like hurricanes; its not THAT the wind blows, but WHAT the winds blows.

Its not that the rock comes off, but WHAT it breaks under.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: mynameismud on January 13, 2018, 11:51:19 AM
or perhaps what is under it when it breaks
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: F4? on January 13, 2018, 09:01:37 PM
Pinnacles rock is better than Yosemite.

The 1st part of the 1st pitch of resurrection is in the shade. A good runout if I recall.
Jake lead that pitch and found some tat and a faded locking binder. Upon inspection, I recognized said locker as mr muds. I gave it back to him, as is the custom, when you find his gear. I would not want to use it.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: Runout on January 14, 2018, 09:42:04 PM
There is a very true point here: there is almost no large scale rock fall at the Pinns. Lots of busted holds to be sure that might send you for a surprise fall (usually onto a 3/8" bolt). But it seems like you're way less likely to get hit by anything on the scale of Yos that would kill you walking along the base. Kind of a paradox.

There's the small block that collapsed in recent years near Son of Dawn. But that's all I can think of. Nothing like say: Middle Cathedral every day during summer, Waterfall Wall, Glacier point (three different massive slides), Half Dome (Regular NW, TisSaAck), Clouds Rest, Rixon's, West Face of El Cap, Tangerine Trip, Parkline Slab, Ahwiyah Point...
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: F4? on January 15, 2018, 11:39:37 AM
I can attest there is 1less loose hold on Pereguine.

Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: F4? on January 15, 2018, 07:05:59 PM
Yosemite is choosy and loose.

Mr mud taught me that long ago.

Plus why drive all that way to the valley when pinnacles is 1hr and a bit.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: JC w KC redux on January 15, 2018, 07:35:33 PM
Yosemite is choosy and loose.

Mr mud taught me that long ago.

Plus why drive all that way to the valley when pinnacles is 1hr and a bit.

I mean...it's the valley...
Why go there if you don't have to?

For me Pinns is an hour and two bits  :lol: :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: mungeclimber on January 15, 2018, 08:08:22 PM
It does have splitters.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: JC w KC redux on January 15, 2018, 08:43:11 PM
It does have splitters.

So do lumberjacks  :lol: :biggrin:
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: F4? on January 15, 2018, 10:12:30 PM
Pinnacles has a splitter or 2.
Title: Re: Resurrection Wall - dry by Sunday?
Post by: JC w KC redux on January 16, 2018, 07:29:07 AM

I like carrots  :biggrin: