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Out'n about... just not Climbing => Biking => Topic started by: NOAL on October 11, 2020, 05:14:00 PM
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Many times when I ride on Canada Rd I encounter a a certain jerky behavior when it comes to passing. I think it is because the road is really straight and other cyclists can see riders waaay ahead of them and they set their sites on passing
Today I was somewhere before the water temple on the little uphill part when I can hear the tell tale huffing and puffing coming up behind me. Just as we crest the incline this lady passes me. O.k. cool whatever.
After the next downhill bit it gets flat before Filoli. The lady proceeds to totally slow her pace. I'm about 10 ft behind her for the next mile or so. I could have easily passed her. When we get to the sprint to Edgewood turnoff I get out of the saddle put the hammer down and pass her.
Before the over pass theres all this huffing and puffing again but she cant pass me. Finally when we get on the incline after the overpass she passes me again but this time she pulls in front of a car coming up behind us.
At this point, I fell back and tried to get some space between us. When she gets to the stop sign at Jefferson she comes to a full stop. There were no cars so I passed her again.
Next thing I know she rides up alongside me and starts chewing me out. Telling me everytime I passed her I put her life in danger, how I was an asshole etc etc.
I told her i just wanted to enjoy the afternoon and ride my bike and she should too and that I would slow down and she could continue alone. This did not help she just kept yelling at me.
I did not know what to do so I said "you must really want to ride bicycles with me" She got even madder. we were at olive road so I said " I am turning here you are more than welcome to come ride Kings Mt with me" Still not happy. I sprinted up the olive hill and left her. When I passed Tripp I heard her say " Sorry, have a good ride." I said "you too."
Put a real damper on the day.
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Good story NOAL
I have occasionally passed bicyclists on uphills on the uni.
Pretty easy since my wheel is so much bigger.
The best is if I pass a youngster and then tell them they just got passed by someone old enough to be their grandpa on a unicycle.
Now I just ride as slow as possible and focus on being one with everything :yesnod: :biggrin: :thumbup: :arf:
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focus on being one with everything
There's a joke that involves a religion and a cheeseburger....or something like that.
As for the cyclist, she was definitely not one with everything. I was going to make a quick stab at it and say "just another angry BAP".....but there has been a lot of shitty things happening this year, so who knows maybe it was one thing or a combo of things that had her stressed out on this day. I'm trying to give people more of a pass right now. Either way, bummer interaction....sorry that can really throw off what is supposed to be fun.
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There's a joke that involves a religion and a cheeseburger....or something like that.
What did the Buddhist say to the hot dog vendor?
"Make me one... with everything."
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Try to focus on the end of the encounter? It sounds like she had time to think about her assholishness and regret it some?
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What I dont understand about this behavior is if you pass someone keep the same pace and put some distance between you and who you passed. Just catching up to someone ,barely having enough gas to get past them and not being able to stay in front sucks.
Most road bikers have a larger front chain ring than I do. I am in no means equipped to or interested in being competitive with them. Furthermore, I think most of these riders know that. Today's incident is one of about a dozen other similar scenarios I have encountered on the same stretch of road.
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You handled it much better than I would have. I usually say something really constructive like, blow me.
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You handled it much better than I would have. I usually say something really constructive like, blow me.
Thanks for the laugh dude! Agreed - he handled it well. I probably would have just said bite me or F-off.
I was running in the Park with my girlfriend last week and a car got way to close to us and she yelled "why don't you come a little f*#@ing closer". I was cracking up, since she is all of 5 feet nothing.
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Roadies these days, wtf????
Seriously, I hate roadies, they make every excuse in the book to chew you out.
That was the worst excuse I have hear.
When road cycling there are those who are passing and those are being passed.
I pass, knowing that there will be someone who will be much faster and they will pass me.
Therefore, it is safer to pass while you can and ride at you pace.
Sadly there are those who took lessons on how to road ride, and they did not grow up in the 80’s where road riders were fair game. You learned to be nimble.
Some people just can’t take getting passed.
My old bane was on my old commute....googleites.
Wow, decked out in full neon riding gear, lights and blinking lights and signing bells to assert their right to be an asshole. They would use hand signals....Like I really care you are turning off, just get out of my way.
I’d usually have a nice tail wind and just blow by them, fast so they could not react. If they were on an e bike, I’d mess with them....passing and making them use their battery to pass me and go past me showing their cheating speed...hopefully draining their battery. At night, they would have lights on full power, so I make my lights point up high to blind...and ride on high power.
Worst of worst would be bike to work day. Jackasses pass me and slow down...nope it done work like that. So I’d put the hurt on driving the pace hard....making them try to keep up. And then their turn comes before they can pass...better luck next year, jackass!
Yeah, this whole bike thing resurgence sucks ass.
Now please.......
GET THE F***K out of my way!!!!!!
Kings mountain is real road riding...downhill for me!
Just remember Noal....if I come up on you....
GET OUT OF MY WAY!!
Feel free to say the same to me.
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^^^
:lol:
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I think it is just people in general, or perhaps our society. Hikers, bikers, runners, climbers, equestrians for the most part it is the same attitude. There are those that are just focused on their thing and do not want anyone to burst their bubble. It seems within the fringe of the sports the attitude gets a bit more chill but it can be experienced there as well. I think it is fringe parts of society are more excepting since they generally are not as excepted.
Most of us are better off when we can just chill a bit. I am probably not very good at this.
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Roadies are pretty much up tight.....they need to evolve and drive a car!!
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Roadies are pretty much up tight.....they need to evolve and drive a car!!
The vast majority of roadies around here come across as uptight.
A few will give me an attaboy but it's the exception - not the rule.
I have only ever had one person in 9+ years of riding actually pull up and ride along with me, asking questions about uni.
Most of them are decked out in nerd garb as F4 said - and think they're hot stuff.
Makes me think of the scene in Breaking Away where the Italian guy derails Dave by sticking a tire pump through his spokes. :thumbup:
I need a shirt that says "One Is All You Need" on the front and "Lose The Training Wheel" on the back.
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Just remember Noal....if I come up on you....
GET OUT OF MY WAY!!
I was looking for you a couple of weekends ago. Rode down Steven's Canyon then back up Montebello.
Hikers, bikers, runners, climbers, equestrians for the most part it is the same attitude.
There is definitely a commonality in behavior among all of those groups except the equestrians. The equestrians truly have no business being anywhere except on their ranches and I have no problem telling them to go f themselves.
I feel like the problem is people want recognition for mediocrity. They can buy all the gear pros have ,go out and try to experience something they saw in an advertisement. (Everything is an advertisement these days especially outdoor sports movies) When it comes to realizing that there are hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of other people all doing something similar it's a hard pill to swallow. The fact is they will never get to be in the advertisement.
I want to make some bike jerseys that say "Nobody Cares About You" on the back.
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In San Mateo county the hose folks have serious pull. They are the reasons why the trails in that county are paved in gold!! At least in Huddart.
Worse, up around Menlo, many folks learn to ride in a trialthalon training program.
I swear they tell them to do all of these things that I don’t have time for.
I can go on that rant later...
Sorry I was pressing grapes on Saturday and then lost my mojo on Sunday to go climb montyB.
It comes and goes...
Trying to cajol Mungie to go climbing.
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I used to ride on the road a lot and part of the problem is after dodging the bullet so many times you just kind of end up in a perpetual wound up state. I notice it a while ago when I started to get back into road riding again. I also think Noal nailed, we all want to be in the advertisement
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I used to ride on the road a lot and part of the problem is after dodging the bullet so many times you just kind of end up in a perpetual wound up state.
Having a bike that can ride road and dirt is nice because it allows me to cut out some of the roads that are stressful. For instance, I try to avoid riding on Skyline as much as possible. Tunitas Creek is a good climb but I rarely descend that way. Too many blind curves on a narrow road. I cut through Purisma instead. Cars are bad enough but when two or more bicycles and a car(s) are involved it gets especially stressful and definitely dangerous.
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Worse this damn Covid thing has more people getting on to bikes....some bringing out bikes
1 word of advice to them:
Oil your chain!!!!!
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Having a bike that can ride road and dirt is nice because it allows me to cut out some of the roads that are stressful. For instance, I try to avoid riding on Skyline as much as possible. Tunitas Creek is a good climb but I rarely descend that way. Too many blind curves on a narrow road. I cut through Purisma instead. Cars are bad enough but when two or more bicycles and a car(s) are involved it gets especially stressful and definitely dangerous.
Those link ups sound like really nice rides
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Yeah my road bike running 28s can go on fire roads.
Hurts like heck and zero handling.
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I'm surprised F4 hasn't gotten bored and changed the thread title to Passing Gas on Cañada Rd.
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I fart in your direction!!!
I ride evryday, so I can associate with Noal and the jackasses he had encountered.
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I fart in your direction!!!
Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries. :ciappa:
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Jeezus, wtf is up with folks Montebello preserve. My favorite trail Bella Luna...chock full of folks biking up it.
Looked for you Noal....
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Bella Vista is kinda weird choice to go up. Better to go down Canyon Trail up the Indian fire road, and go down Bella Vista.
I went for a ride today but just did up OLH and down 84. Not that many folks out. There were some Brits near the top of OLH wearing long leggings and long sleeves saying "oh it's soooooo cold where is the sun?" They must have been using fake accents because there is no way they were from England with talk like that. Could not see their teeth.
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Ha what losers!!! It’s always cold up there.
Seriously, why climb up that trail. I am going to have to move the 1 way sign from
Today was not a strata PR on the decent....I
Need
To take
the wrong way sign from skid row and put at the bottom of Bela Luna.
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I have a garmin that wont sync and forgot to push the start button Strava.
Dont think I got any PRs either. Sure is nice to ride when it's not hot.
I've never noticed the wrong way sign on skid road . I always go down that one too.
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I have a garmin that wont sync and forgot to push the start button Strava.
Sure is nice to ride when it's not hot.
I've never noticed the wrong way sign on skid road . I always go down that one too.
You guys ride on Skid Row? I had a similar experience recently.
I was in Glendale a week ago and tried to take a uni ride with Dave. Couldn't get going (15 tries to get on) and Dave didn't stop after he got going - so I never even saw him. Rode down a challenging, bumpy/eroded, paved, off-camber section to a pedestrian bridge and across that - then on a nice two-way paved trail that unfortunately goes right between the L.A. River and I-5 (super noisy and lots of cyclists with no courtesy). I forgot my helmet so I did not have my rear view mirror. One guy on an e bike went whizzing by with no warning at all. The trail was too skinny to do a U-turn, so I dismounted and turned around after riding farther than I imagined Dave would and never seeing him ahead anywhere. Turns out I stopped about a half mile short of where he went. He claimed he explained where he was going to stop but it must have been too many directions and too much information for my puny, pea brain that early in the morning. On the way back, I skipped the bridge and the nice trail passed through a homeless encampment. One of the campsites was on fire and billowing black smoke when we were starting the ride. Dave thought it was a car fire on the super slab and we couldn't see it from our start point. I rode through watered-down fire retardant and past all the other sordid sites - dismounting where the path met Dave's street.
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I have a garmin that wont sync and forgot to push the start button Strava.
Hey Noal - you might have already tried this, but my Garmin watch wasn't syncing a few weeks ago and after I did a complete shutdown (kept holding the power button down until it powered completely off) and then started it back up. I was about to give up but it started working properly again.
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I think if you track Kat on Strava you can see her GIANT watch on Google Earth (no need to zoom in much - you can see it from space). :yikes: :lol:
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Am I the ONLY old and crusty here who doesn't track their fitness electronically?
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Yes, the Garmin's can be a pain.
My son had issues with his and it took getting an update forced onto it.
Off and on always works....likely to get the update to take hold.....
Skid Row is a connector trail from Steven's Canyon to Skyline road. It's a brutal climb out to Skyline.
But for some reason ( I refuse to stop and read) they have made the trail a 1 way trail. I never see anyone on it....so why 1 way, the way I don't go!!!)
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Am I the ONLY old and crusty here who doesn't track their fitness electronically?
It's hard to answer a question when the premise is faulty.
You're not old and crusty. Definitely young and crusty.
And no, the whole tracking fitness with nagging, annoying gadgets is way, way beyond me too.
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Skid Row is a connector trail from Steven's Canyon to Skyline road. It's a brutal climb out to Skyline.
they have made the trail a 1 way trail. I never see anyone on it....so why 1 way, the way I don't go!!!)
Sounds like a real bum deal.
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Am I the ONLY old and crusty here who doesn't track their fitness electronically?
Don't worry...I'm sure someone is tracking you... :idea: :o :devildevil:
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Always wanted Mr Mud to have live tracking....so I could watch him suffer.
Send him a text or 4......speed up.
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Am I the ONLY old and crusty here who doesn't track their fitness electronically?
Depends on the activity.
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My son had issues with his and it took getting an update forced onto it
This is the exact problem. It's a 510 and won't sync up with the app or even with USB to the computer.
How did you do it?
Am I the ONLY old and crusty here who doesn't track their fitness electronically?
Do you track your fitness by other means? This is gonna be a major contradiction coming from the guy that makes fun of tick lists etc but when I used to work out at the gym I did keep a notebook with notes.
Strava is more like a game where I am half ass competing with myself. I realize I could utilize it better with the Garmin and a power meter but not having rode that long it is satisfying enough just to see faster times on hill climbs and not analyze it too much much. Just like climbing and other outdoor activities big gains happen for beginners.
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I check off climbs in guidebooks, but that's it. I have used a computer to see overall distance on mtb rides, but haven't jumped into the Strava world. I think it mostly stems from riding in Santa Cruz for so long. The majority of the time I was riding illegal trails and I HATED when the strava world came to be and people were posted their strava rides on illegal trails. They were basically building the mapped data set of trails for someone to point to how many illegal trails there were. This really turned my off to it so I never really jumped in.
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Yeah that sucks.
It's a pretty evil app on many fronts and levels.
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I still believe it is only about the size of your watch.
The rest is just fluff.
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Ahhhh, the good old days of mtn biking illegal trails.
I think most if not all were back in the day.
My buddy had removed the no bikes sign on one trail that went from cabrillo to nisine marks.
This was in the 80’s....89 I think.
Then, they opened Wilder...legal single track? What?
Yeah too many folks out riding. Flow was chewed up bad.
I am stumped at why so bad....
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I was looking for you a couple of weekends ago. Rode down Steven's Canyon then back up Montebello.
There is definitely a commonality in behavior among all of those groups except the equestrians. The equestrians truly have no business being anywhere except on their ranches and I have no problem telling them to go f themselves.
I feel like the problem is people want recognition for mediocrity. They can buy all the gear pros have ,go out and try to experience something they saw in an advertisement. (Everything is an advertisement these days especially outdoor sports movies) When it comes to realizing that there are hundreds of thousands or maybe millions of other people all doing something similar it's a hard pill to swallow. The fact is they will never get to be in the advertisement.
I want to make some bike jerseys that say "Nobody Cares About You" on the back.
This for what ever reason has been stuck in my head for a while. I guess I have been over thinking it a bit, which is something I know I can do a fair bit. I think this can also be thought of as what has been written about and that is, the Myth of the Hero. We all want to be the hero in some way or form, even if it is the anti hero, which is still a hero.
The Myth of the Birth of the Hero - A lot of philosophy has been penned here.
I am now the hero, so I can put this away. : )