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Climbing and ... Climbing => Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles => Topic started by: Brad Young on July 20, 2007, 11:01:37 AM
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I just received proofs of both the guidebook body and the guidebook cover from the printer. Once they are approved.... This part of the process is happening a lot faster than I thought it would. My palms are sweating from seeing this thing so close to reality.
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Sweet.
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Should recieve the second text proof this week. I suspect it will be a quick OK. Some issues with the cover proof - not a "tough" enough material, so we're looking at better options. Maybe ready for the full print run by second week of August?
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Our operators are standing by to take your order!!!
Can't wait to see the finished product!!
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I sure hope you all shamelessly upgraded everything by at least three grades... :P
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I sure hope you all shamelessly upgraded everything by at least three grades... :P
Nope, downgraded by 2 so they are accurate.
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There will be a "sub-edition" specifically for Mr Mud. Everything in it is rated third class or, if it's 5th class, it'll be 5.9+ or 5.10d. No other ratings in his book. And I'm doing a sub edition for me too. Every climb I've already done will get one star max. Any I've yet to do will automatically get 3 stars. Still trying to figure out how to get the stars to automatically vaporize after I do the route. And one for Uber. All the 2 and 3 star routes are removed, so he'll be damned to an eternity of climbing only obscurities.
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so he'll be damned to an eternity.
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Where's the guide book? Will they be handed out as wedding favors this weekend?
"No other ratings in his book." -Give him a break, he only has 5 fingers one each hand. How can he get past 10? Taking off his shoes would take work.
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We caused delays by upgrading the paper and cover stock. And there was an issue with the cover color. All is good now, but not likely to be available before the end of September. There will, of course be handouts, but given what I've spent to date and what I am paying for printing and shipping (its more than I earned in my first year working as a lawyer), it might be nice to sell a few of them wholesale too.
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$1.98?
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If $1.98 refers to what you think I earned my first year as a lawyer, then you're sadly mistaken. You would be way too high in your estimate of my value.
If you're asking the wholesale price per copy, your inquiry is irrelevant since you're down for free (but not really free given the huge amount of time you spent/wasted helping with the book).
Retail is suggested at $35.00. Wholesale around $22.00. The book is 408 pages, the last two of which are blank space. 70 pound "matte" paper, a term of art which means really, really good paper (sorry, it isn't soft enough to use as emergency TP). 14 point Kivar cover. Optional for an extra 89 cents, a black Sharpie pen and a bandana. The Sharpie to make your own corrections of my many screw ups (choose your own, each person will pick differently). The bandana to put in your mouth so I don't have to hear your complaints about how you would have done it better.
- 4,200 copies (plus or minus), shipped directly to my house, printed on extremely high quality paper with quite robust cover stock, including rounded corners, just over $30,000.
- Having a life again with no self imposed anchor of research, writing, drawing. cleaning and editing: priceless.
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ahem, cough* SPH 2nd ed * cough, ahem
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Yeah, I know.
But right now working with that kind of intensity on another guidebook appeals about as much as belaying on a piss stained ledge in this heat halfway up El Cap. I'm not sure I can do it.
Still, I've got nearly 40 topos that aren't in the 2001 book, I've redone most of the topos that are in the book, I've got an ongoing text/route list and I'm cleaning topos at a rate of about 1 per month. It ain't gonna happen quickly. Maybe I'll get inspired this winter.
Meanwhile I'm also collecting action and formation photos.
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"it might be nice to sell a few of them wholesale too. "
Have you talked to Renee @ PG? I can mention it to her the next time there.
Is it legal to sell them at the Pinns Parking lot?
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Actually Steve's going to sell to PG (don't forget too that Tonya works there, and yes, we both know Renee). I'll sell to a few shops that I visit on occassion, but Marty Lewis will be doing much of the distribution. His network is well set up for his books, and he's eager to make a few bucks by helping, which is great by me.
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Gee Brad, I must have had a brain fart with the PG connection. It's nice to see Tonay there again.
I'll do my best to market it when I'm there. "you don't have the new guide??"
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Just make sure that REI gets some. I know that the SF REI has tried to get any copies of the Rubine guide that they can.
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Gee Brad, I must have had a brain fart with the PG connection. It's nice to see Tonay there again.
I'll do my best to market it when I'm there. "you don't have the new guide??"
Wait a second... When are you ever there? :-*
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Tuesday and Thursday nights. I'm with the climbing, not the bouldering crowd.
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Just received the following email from my printer:
"Brad: I did get the cover & it will hit the press Tuesday. The text is printing as we speak."
UPS had lost the final cover proof in Calgary, which is 1200 miles from Winnipeg! Wow, its so close! maybe well before the end of September.
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Very niiiice... :)
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so he'll be damned to an eternity.
Already am. I'm a climber.
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Just received the following email from my printer:
"Brad: I did get the cover & it will hit the press Tuesday. The text is printing as we speak."
UPS had lost the final cover proof in Calgary, which is 1200 miles from Winnipeg! Wow, its so close! maybe well before the end of September.
Outstanding!
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All copies of the text (ie the inside of the book) are printed and folded. No copies have yet been sewn. Covers are started, but none are yet final (they print and then put an additional surface over the printed cover).
1 1/2 to 2 weeks until they ship. Prior to shiping they'll overnight me 2 copies for review.
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Sweet.
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Status???? Pinnacles season is almost here!
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As soon as I can walk.
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Yeah, talk about status, how is the leg?
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I can put a little weight on it. See the Doctor today.
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Walk it off!
I really need to climb on ropes soon. Maybe a new Pinns guidebook will inspire me. :)
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Doc says 50%.
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50%...50% healed or 50% chance of survival? I get dibs on your aid gear if it is the latter.
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I am definitely going to die but not soon enough for some. Hopefully by the time we come back from China I can start riding the bike and work toward some form of fitness.
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All the texts are printed and folded. The covers are printed. Sewing started Monday... and the lady who operates the "Smyth Sew" machine had a family emergency. So, instead of finished books stacking up right now, we've lost a full week until she comes back.
Damn, it's hard to be patient.
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Family emergency...are you sure she didn't want to head to the Pinnacles with her "draft copy"?
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Actually I was told she was thinking of doing just that... and then she heard about these soft drunks taking their little carry-coolers to the High Peaks and decided not to.
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challenge: carry a coleman steel case now! no one calls squiddo a soft drunk and stands up straight to tell the tale!
heh
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Yeah Brad....you got it all wrong. Bratton carries the 2 pack. I on the other hand bring the cooler into the parking lot and then hit the Chalone winery before tasting hours close.
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Actually,Vicki and I are doing 3 days/2nights at the Inn of The Pinnacles at the end of October. We must be getting old; instead of climbing intensely on a weekend without the kids, we're climbing some and spending all afternoon Saturday at the Chalone Creek winery.
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Jeezus, what is this? An AA meeting?
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Brad....sounds like something any sane person could appreciate. I checked out the Inn out and walked the grounds with the owner. As I understand it, they open it Thursday and close it Sunday. Drive down from Los Altos Hills. Not a bad life. I'd like to book a couple nights there in the Spring and do just that.
The place looks nice....bring some steaks and BBQ on the room balcony looking over....the Balcony's.
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So I was in NYC for a short bit this summer w/my kids. We hung out w/my ex-sister-in-law. Her roommate works for some big liquor distributor. My ex-SIL pulled out a bottle of wine and asked me if I had heard of it because "it was really good". It was a bottle of Chalone! Her roommate's company pimps for them. Small world.
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Small world indeed. Is this when you tell me you drank it, pilfered all the Cherry, and puked on the shag rug?
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Back on track. The printing company's employee is back (her son in OK now). The Smythe Sewing process starts first thing tomorrow morning. Three to five days to sew all the copies. Then, on go the covers. I may see an overnighted copy of the book in 7 days (I suspect a few more, though). Feeling like a kid on Christmas eve.
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Small world indeed. Is this when you tell me you drank it, pilfered all the Cherry, and puked on the shag rug?
I don't puke, I splurp. Neither of which I did that evening. I was with my kids for gods sake!!!!
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Feeling like a kid on Christmas eve.
Let's hope you don't get coal in your stocking! Let me know when you get the word so I can camp out on your front door step and be in line to get one of the first 10 copies. ;D
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This is slower than shit. Sewing is well underway and will be done this Friday. Then the covers go on. Monday is Canada's Thanksgiving (the printer I am using is in Canada). So, final binding (ie putting on the covers and cutting the corners round) will start Tuesday. I may receive the overnighted copies next week. Shipping of the great mass of books will take another week after that.
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Just in time for X-Mas! Yea!
The joys of outsourcing. It could be worse.