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Climbing and ... Climbing => Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles => Topic started by: F4? on November 01, 2007, 05:29:19 PM
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Okay, I was able to thumb through the new guidebook.
A few notes from my recollection:
It's awsome!
The pictures are nice (Mr Mud in a tie-dye is priceless).
The topos are clear, and descriptive. Unlike the purple book.
Cool new routes are in the book like the Machete Arch, Penguin Handshake.
It will be worth the wait.
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Wait...stop the presses. When did you get your physical copy!
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I'll be getting my copy next Thursday... I found THE dealer. :-X
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Wow....time to sell the old Rubine!
http://tinyurl.com/2b3gsd
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Yeah... If you want that one, they have about 20 copies at Planet Granite.
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I can at least sell Mike Whip's Rubine guide that I still have.
Whip, where are you?!
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Excellent job! A lot to like here. Will be great fun studying it in detail. Thanks for all your efforts putting it together.
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Funny....saw that on Friday at PG. I'm gonna buy them all up...collectors items! lol
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Who is going to announce the new guidebook on RC.com & Supertopo?
Someone has to spread the word...
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Yeeeeaaaah, thanks to Jim's home delivery, we got our three copies :D -- one for before washing our hands, one for after, and one for Mr Mud's friend Dave Wood.
Mr Mud has seen the new guidebook when Brad brought his own first copy down and I saw it last weekend at F4's place, but it ain't the same as reading it at home, in my couch, undisturbed.
1) The book only weighs 1 lb 11.375 oz (778g). So, it's light!
2) The route numbers go up to 880. Brad, you'd done 749 routes (as of Oct 23) in good style, right? That's about 85.11%. I wonder if any author of other guidebooks (the complete ones, not the selects like Supertopos) can beat that.
3) The maps and topos are top notch! Even the trees in the topos are leaning in a meaningful way.
4) Introduction makes an excellent read, esp. to an armchair climber like me.
Now, Brad, how do you want to collect/maintain/publish your errata? I've found some misinformation that I want to report. Notice that I did not say "mistake" because F4 once said to me, "To say the guidebook made a mistake would be to say Brad made a mistake and he never does that. "
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classic
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Worm: Um... I've done more than that now. Silly me, I like the place.
As to corrections, Yesterday I prepared four "official" corrections" of typos that are significant enough to have meaning (to me this threshhold occurs if a typo might cause someone to get confused). Brooks and Clint have agreed to carry a section of "official" corrections, and I'm hoping you will too. Plenty of room for other information, corrections, clarifications, and comments by others too, but a section for actual changes to what was published. If this is OK, let me know. And if you have suggestions for inclusion get them to me.
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I'm not mud; I'm worm, because I believe in "Inch by inch, I will get there."
Brad, I've replied your email about my corrections. I'm sure Admin will be happy to create a section dedicated to errata and other discussions/information on the guidebook. If we put some pressure on Admin, maybe it will materialize by end of the year.
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Worm, noted and edited. Also, including Appendix "A" there are 894 routes in the book.
I'll email you the corrections I've noted. One example: on page 318, on the middle right of the topo it says "150 to Icarus...." The route referenced should be Daedalus. There was some confusion about which Denny/Colliver route was which. Turns out I had them backward and I fixed it late in the game. Got it almost everywhere (index, appendices, text) but missed the change that needed to be done here, 8 or so pages before the route is listed.
So, Factor's full of it. I make mistakes, lots of them. And those of you who contributed by editing/ reviewing know it too! (You, Mudworm, how many changes did your editing lead to?)
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I am so disappointed in this book..... ARRGGGHHHHh
Really not even close to two pounds. Slackers.
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Note to Mr Mud...bolt more choss. Just don't develp Juniper canyon...
That should drive up the route count and get the book over 2 pounds.
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Yep.
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So Brad, now the Pinnacles book is done....when are you going to post up an updated topo to the Eastern Front at the Grotto???
Inquiring minds want to know.
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It's current. When are you going to finish your routes there? Plus you'd have to get Munge to get over his "Grotto phobia" so he'd put it on his site.
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When are you going to finish your routes there?
When the price of gas goes down...
Most likely in December when Cliff gets a free weekend.
Care to do some scrubbing in our absence?
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It's current. When are you going to finish your routes there? Plus you'd have to get Munge to get over his "Grotto phobia" so he'd put it on his site.
if he finishes the route, I'll load it to the site.
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Don't encourage him - it is not a very good route and it needs serious, serious scrubbing.
Actually, maybe I could finish and clean the topo on Photoshop before giving it to you. It'd look pretty crisp.
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Don't encourage him - it is not a very good route and it needs serious, serious scrubbing.
What?? That's a great route. It needs a little bit more cleaning and then traffic. Technically, the 1st pitch is complete and most climbs there are 1 pitch. It's the 2nd that needs to be worked on. Mind you it's freaky up there. The rock is much sharper and up can see the rope getting worn. It will get finished in the spring.
Plus I want to finish that "project" at the Pinnacles first.
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Factor, you and Cliff have done some good work up there, nice routes. But the climb you're talking about AIN'T one of them!
Now, back to regularly scheduled Pinns programing.