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Climbing and ... Climbing => Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles => Topic started by: Uncle Stinky on January 07, 2008, 04:59:24 PM
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I know that routes go in ground up and with hand drilling. I have a question as to what types of bolts are being used and what length. Depend on the snow in March, I may a few days to spend at Pinnacles and was thinking of possible trying to put in a route. Jeff
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Straight up baiting the muds people eh. Saying your putting in a route is like pushing a party invite to the whole bay area party scene. You're hosed now. Phone will ring off the hook, people will email you....
let me know if it's not too late to...
:)
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Rather than putting up a new route. Why not just add bolts to existing routes? No one will mind and there are quite a few that could use some work.
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I'm very sorry to announce to this site that Joe died suddenly and unexpectedly a few moments ago. Seems like there was some freak electrical storm. Shortly after that last post he was sitting at his computer when he was struck by lightning. We'll miss him.
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was thinking of possible trying to put in a route. Jeff
The bolt legth depends on the particular formation (rock quality varies) ;D
PS It's best to establish from the top down.
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The bolt length depends on the particular formation (rock quality varies) ;D
I thought the length was dependent on genetics.
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The bolt legth depends on the particular formation (rock quality varies) ;D
PS It's best to establish from the top down.
lies and slander
traverses only are permitted
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I know, I'll take the Bosch and rap and add some bolts to some of those runout 5.2 lines. However I still think doing virgin route on stance is better, what position should I use? What type of harness? Is width more important than length for the bolts or is the thrusting and hammering of the drill that makes the hole tighter, firmer and dare I say, more inviting, for the final insertion of the bolt, how does moisture play into this situation, is lubrication needed when the bolt is finally pushed in to the hilt and set!!!! OH!!!!!!
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Virgin, harness, stance, depth, width, moisture?
I'm interested....
Let me see if I can get free.
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I know....for a second I thought I was on a different site. but wait, they canceled my "membership".
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Had a great night of sleep since I had permission to dream of women.
:)
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hmmphmm... (That's throat-clearing.)
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Rhuu Rhoe
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Back to the point- do people use 3/8 inch or do you need to use 1/2 inch. Would a Rawl 3/8 X 3 or 3.5 inches work. Do people use Camo hangers? Thanks much
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I have heard the extra displacement is not needed.
3/8 by 3 is just fine unless it is quite loose where you are drilling then ya need to go a bit deeper.
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Ideally stainless as well. Unfortunatly the price of stainless steel has doubled in the last year or so.
I currently use 3/8 by 3.5.
1/2 would be nice on well traveled routes, but man, what a hole to drill.
Go and retro carpet cleaner. It needs a few.
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camo hangers are very much used. black for black water streaks, but mottled paint jobs using a black, red and brown, damn near make them invisible so that's probably preferred. Larry Arther had a little technique on how to paint them when they get on the rock without painting the rock itself. quite effective. I've used it once before. You can also use brown nail polish on just the head of the bolt if the hanger itself is prefab camo.
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quite often red or black primer works quite well.
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Don't make them too hard to see. I like red with a little black. I do have a mind to start painting them neon green after watching Joe trying to find the bolts on Shake and Bake. Those old Leepers can be murder to find.
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Those Leepers were next to impossible to find in the Meadows amongst a sea of knobs. If I had a nickel for all the times I was panicking while searching for a bolt...only to discover it 10 down and 15 over.
Does anyone else miss the old Euro colored hangers. Kidding...one of the lamest ideas ever.
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reflecto-electric-green Kong hangers? oh yesh!
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What about the red they used riiiiight at the crux.
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What about the red they used riiiiight at the crux.
Hmmmm, I paint my hangers Red.
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What about the red they used riiiiight at the crux.
very kewl idea heheh