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Climbing and ... Climbing => Masters of Mud -- Pinnacles => Topic started by: Poppy on April 08, 2008, 09:25:34 AM
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Ok,
I led Coyote Ugly again, having not climbed it for probably 15 years. I remembered it as a nice long climb, great views, nothing else remarkable.
This time I found it to be quite unappealing. The bottom bit is ok, but the rest is not very good. At least it is runout on poor quality rock. I was disappointed, and now it is off my list. I will not likely repeat this one. One star for novel location and view.
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This time I found it to be quite unappealing. . . . and now it is off my list. I will not likely repeat this one.
I only had to climb it once to figure that out.
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I still kinda like it. Not my top climb but cool in it's own way.
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I kind of dig it as well.
But then, it was my first full-pitch lead ever... 21 years old and leading runout 5.9. What happened? :o
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odd, I don't recall it sucking as bad. In fact, I seem to remember (gasp) enjoying it. Who knows, maybe thats when I was still high on life:-)
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i dont think its 5.9 anymore. i climbed with doug londgrun several years ago and we both felt something most have broken off.. could be wrong tho.
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I think something breaks off of that route every year.
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begs the question then, does it get better or worse ::)
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throw my vote toward the 'I like it' crowd. many a fine memory of ending the day sitting on top of T's X looking down at the monolith, overlooking the reservoir as the sky changes color. I like the fact that it's long, relatively easy and a fun down climb the backside.
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It's been prolly 10-15yrs since I did it. I remember the bottom being nice and the top a wee contrived since you can cut over to the right.
I have to give it a vote based on the location and view.
5.9 or 5.9+??
Shame if something did brake off and made it harder...it wasn't me. Maybe that F'ueco guy?
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Okay, I just did Coyote Ugly yesterday since I haddn't done it (I can't remember..maybe '01).
Poppy, I second your comments in your original post.
I thought the lower section was a bit more broken. The upper, wasn't loose, but the quality of the holds were so, so. That's my opinion after doing a bunch more routes in the Monument (8-10yrs worth). I'd have to compare the quality to that of the high peaks.
It's still 5.9. Just keep high stepping.
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Yep, I think overall it's the location thats this one nice. I lead it years ago on a freezing mid-week day. No one around and wishing for some sunshine in place of the clouds.
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i was thinking of the wrong route. isnt there a coyote something on the west side? was rated 10a in the old guide book i think...
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Cross your heart? Yah, that ones always been loose. Sandbag from what I heard.
Coyote's something about doggie whatever??
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Even Coyotes Like It Doggie Style
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lol, nice one salad.
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even coyotes like it doggie style is a fun route. I've only done it once. if I remember correctly you anchor off a tree up top and it was relatively long. right off the trail.
I've caught some big falls on cross my heart (and hope to fly). on lead, it is very spicy as you traverse right on what may or may not be called rock.
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traverse left
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you have the best ideas. never thought of moving away from the anchors. I
need to break out of the box.