Yeah, and on February 28th you'll be only 2 years younger than I am. Together we're nearly 90. And I think you creak and groan more than I do when you walk. By the way since when is Broken Arrow 5.10b? I thought it was concensus 5.10c, but 5.9+ for those who have an "S" emblazoned on their chests (or at least think they do). After all: Dennis Is Eccentric.[/u]