Author Topic: Pinnacles Draft General Management Plan Release - Time to Comment  (Read 8976 times)

Brad Young

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Re: Pinnacles Draft General Management Plan Release - Time to Comment
« Reply #20 on: January 04, 2013, 12:46:00 PM »

I have responded and I have been doing some outreach via social media.

I have also suggested a ban on rappel bolted routes within the park citing a degradation of park resources and protection for historical uses under the Antiquities Act.


Nice thought process. Obviously you're considering things in light of your own NPS experience/background.

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Re: Pinnacles Draft General Management Plan Release - Time to Comment
« Reply #21 on: January 04, 2013, 01:56:37 PM »
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crazy idea, but does a road on the north side of the monument that connects East and West make more sense IF there is increased load from the new status... over time?

From what i know about the parks and how they operate there is very little chance that a road would be built. Maybe 50 years ago this would fly ,but now that science and environmental preservation has a huge place in park planning, there is no way that a road would get built along a sensitive riparian corridor. The park planning process has come a long way. Think The Firefall, introducing invasive fish into The High Sierra, feeding Bears etc. I can't think of any park where they actually built a new road in the last ten years. Just the fact that any nature will be destroyed seems to shut roads down at just the wild thought level.

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Re: Pinnacles Draft General Management Plan Release - Time to Comment
« Reply #22 on: January 04, 2013, 05:54:29 PM »
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crazy idea, but does a road on the north side of the monument that connects East and West make more sense IF there is increased load from the new status... over time?

Why not just a tunnel under Muchshitty out to the Chalone Area?

And a Yurt at the top of Chalone Peak??

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I have also suggested a ban on rappel bolted routes within the park citing a degradation of park resources and protection for historical uses under the Antiquities Act.
Sucking up the Admin??  :o

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Re: Pinnacles Draft General Management Plan Release - Time to Comment
« Reply #23 on: January 04, 2013, 06:22:12 PM »
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Sucking up the Admin??  Shocked

No sucking up here. Mittens told me how poorly bolted those new routes on the back of the monument are. What a disgrace... I'm not into rappel routes. i can only think of a few at the pinns that have the bolts in the right spot.

But seriously does the Antiquities Act cover this concern?

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Re: Pinnacles Draft General Management Plan Release - Time to Comment
« Reply #24 on: January 04, 2013, 06:35:02 PM »
Can't fix stupid, nor make it illegal.

Routing is an art...bottoms up or (gasp) top down.

At the other choss pile, Eastern Front at the Grotto (shameless plug), one had to give good thought to bolt  placements...due to the nature of the rock one could put a bolt on a temporary cobble!

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Re: Pinnacles Draft General Management Plan Release - Time to Comment
« Reply #25 on: January 09, 2013, 10:27:55 PM »
Got an FOP newsletter today, so posting the link here...


http://www.pinnacles.org/news/index.php3#link191
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