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Brad Young

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Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« on: December 01, 2009, 07:30:25 PM »
Thanksgiving was wonderful in so many ways. The girls and I spent four days on the PCT, starting, of course, where we left off. We did 55 miles in a curve around Big Bear Lake. This now leaves us two day's hike from Cajon Pass, at Interstate 15.

Starting out from Onyx Summit, just over 8,300 feet elevation, in sunny but quite crisp November weather (how long 'til that long set of legs is taller than I am?):





We brought a new family member this trip, our new Charlotte who's not quite 3 months. She hiked short bits with us up to 3 1/2 miles at a time:







On the first day we hiked 13.6 miles from Onyx gradually downhill to Highway 18 next to
Baldwin Dry Lake. Unusually, we were able to see our end destination from very early on our hike:





Half of this day's hike was in a creek canyon, down out of the sun. The creek had almost no water, and what there was was frozen solid. Kinda chilly:





The second half of this hike was on the tops of bare ridges with great views of the Big Bear area and great views north toward Apple Valley (and the road to Joshua Tree):





We knew it would be cold at nearly 8,0000 feet elevation (and it was - nights got down into the teens). So, unlike last year we rented a cabin. This made the nights so much more comfortable and allowed easier morning starts too:





Staying in town allowed us to explore Big Bear a little, and while driving through town to various trail starts and ends we saw a lot of the area. I've always thought Southern Californians were innovative, inventive people. But we were genuinely amazed at this (new?) method of cleaning motor vehicles:





That's day one. Next up, we finish the first, mostly northbound part of the PCT and turn generally west for the next 150 miles.

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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2009, 08:08:34 PM »
Hey Brad,

Cool TR and pup too! This one stuck a cord as I flew into Big Bear in my buddies Cessna on the way to Jtree last Oct (TR Pending). Touring that area by plane, the landscape was not what I expected and beautiful. Also, from Big Bear to Jtree a very short flight.
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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 09:57:50 PM »
Yes, Squiddo, Josh and Big Bear are amazingly close - by air. Driving is another story (and so is hiking!). I was also surprised at the amount of climbing I was able to find in the area, first on mtnproject.com, and then by seeing it on the ground (but I just looked - too much other fun to have with the girls).

Day two started with a road recon to find pick-up points. The Big Bear area is pretty developed, much more so than Idyllwild, so the dirt roads were wide and well maintained. And open. So we started from Highway 18, in mixed Pinon Pines and Joshua Trees:





Routine hiking led just under 9 miles to Van Dusen Canyon road, where Vic met us for lunch:





We then continued nearly four more miles, now due north of Big Bear Lake. Most of the afternoon hike was on the north side of the ridge and so the lake was out of sight to the south (on the other side of the ridge). Then, near the end of the day, the trail crossed over to the south side of the ridge:







We finished with plenty of daylight and headed back to the cabin. 12.4 miles for the day. Charlotte got her first taste of open car windows on the way back:


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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2009, 10:03:46 PM »
You look some what short....

Sounds like good fun.
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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2009, 07:23:23 AM »
In checking with the Forest Service regarding pick-up roads for the third day, I learned that Crab Flats Road was open. This was ideal because it would give us a 14 mile day. But, the lady happened to mention in passing that the Holcomb Valley Road would be closed for graveling the next morning. Oh, no, this was where we'd finished the prior hike, and it was where we had to start again. I asked when they started work (8:00 AM). She thought we'd be OK if we were there and gone before then. So, we were, for an early start in clear and very, very cold conditions:







The trail continued mostly on the north side of the ridge and stayed very cold for the first 6 miles (low 20s, Fahrenheit). Things gradually started to warm after that. We also started into areas of badly burned forest. Quickly we arrived at Little Bear Spring Campground, 7.5 miles from the start. This area was badly burned out, but it had a new picnic table, where we stopped for water and snacks:





It was in this area that I started thinking that 14 miles might be a waste of perfectly good daylight. The hiking was easy; nice trail tread and slowly downhill. Why not continue to Deep Creek, a full 20 miles? We continued through burned areas, finally getting our first view of Mount Baldy, way to the west across Interstate 15:







We stopped a few times for food and water. The girls found "Foot Rock," a match to "Turtle Rock" which we found on the trail over San Jacinto:





This part of the trail generally followed Holcomb creek. The guidebook told of beaver ponds along the creek, but in Southern California? Yep:





After 14 miles we reached Crab Flats Road where we had agreed to meet Vicki (she went back to the cabin after dropping us off, then did a recon of a lower pick-up point at Deep Creek, then drove out to meet us on a road that, apparently, had some truly hideous sections). The wait for her at Holcomb Creek was a nice break:





After Vic showed up, we hung out and I told her we were going to continue.





Before leaving we let Charlotte have her first taste of playing in the water:





Then off we continued into the sunset:







Conditions stayed cold. Late afternoon ice:







By the last few miles we were getting pooped (although all three of us agreed, not as pooped as on the 19 miles uphill, in heat in June). Finally we reached The bridge over Deep Creek. The name is appropriate, Deep Creek had a lot of water; the pools under the bridge were 6 feet deep (in November):





The Splinter Cabin trailhead was 1/4 mile from the bridge and we quickly found the Expedition. But no Vicki and no Charlotte. Turns out they'd gone down to the PCT to meet us, but gone down it instead of up it. I grabbed some headlamps and went out to rescue my beloved. Just a few hundred yards out, I ran into her; she'd realized her error and turned around. From here it was a long, very winding road past Arrowhead Lake and back to the cabin for one more night.

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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2009, 09:37:35 AM »
brrrr
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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2009, 04:34:44 PM »
Sounds like you had some "burr" going too, over on the East Side?

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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2009, 05:49:20 PM »
On the fourth day we hiked 9.4 miles down Deep Creek, into progressively drier and lower terrain. Starting in stuff like this:





Gradually turning to stuff like this:





We saw more beaver dams, which still seem like a weird thing to find in Southern California:





Eventually we came to a large natural hot spring that flowed next to and then into the creek. Quite a popular place, accessed by a trail leading a mile and a half from the canyon rim on the opposite side of the creek from where we had been hiking. We saw no-one else on the hike, turned a corner in the creek and there were 15 people at the hot springs. Since it was getting late, and it was crowded, we felt the water and then crossed the creek to hike out the mile and half:





We'd been told that the hot springs weren't very "family friendly." On the hike out Katie got ahead of Tricia and I by a hundred yards (or two hundred). Tricia was hiking just ahead of me when suddenly, around a corner came another hiker, one going down into the canyon. He was wearing tennis shoes, a watch and a pack. He stopped to chat briefly, everything swinging in the breeze right in front of my seven year old. He was surprised out how far the girls had hiked and then really surprised how long some of their longer hikes were. We said goodbye and Trish turned to me and said "Daddy, why wasn't he wearing any clothes?" I said "he was, honey, he had on shoes and a watch." She replied: "But he didn't have on any real clothes." I then told her that I supposed he wanted to get good and tan all over. She allowed how he was already pretty dark and maybe even red enough to be sunburned. It's nice to see that she could see someone who was as naked as a Jay bird and not find it particularly freaky. I never really got out of Katie what she thought.

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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2009, 08:06:18 PM »
Uff. 
I think you handled that better than many would have.  Not sure what to think in that situation.
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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2009, 08:45:09 PM »
That was funny!!! I didn't know what you meant when you said not "family friendly". I didn't know what you meant when you detailed that he was wearing a watch among other things (isn't it a good idea to wear a watch when you are out?). And then, I read Tricia's question. ROFL!  :D
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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #10 on: December 03, 2009, 11:20:02 AM »
Looks like you had some good times!

Glad to see you got some R+R, Tough ladies you got there!


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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #11 on: December 03, 2009, 11:42:01 AM »
Tough ladies you got there!




Yeah, tough as nails. You realize that there is a faint chance that the younger one will be dictator of the world by the time she turns 18.

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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2009, 12:30:43 PM »
I can't wait! Watching her growing up, I believe it would be a better world should she become the Ms. Dictator.
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Re: Bye Bye Big Bear: The PCT, Volume Eight
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2009, 07:44:41 AM »
Maybe she'd be good, maybe not. But, I'd be kinda worried at how she's get back at me for slave drivin' her all those miles on the PCT.