Going Google Mail

[mynameismud]

Google has decided to quit censoring google.cn.  As a result I will be making Google my default mail tool.

My new email address is mudncrud  at geemail d o t    c o m

If you send it to the old mudncrud address it will get forwarded to this account.

http://blogs.zdnet.com/sustainability/?p=900&tag=content;wrapper&tag=nl.e589

Bold stance in my opinion.

Here's to sweat in your eye

[Brad Young]

Just so I am clear: when you say "bold stance," you are referring to Gooogle's stance? And I assume you are making the switch as a show of support for their bold stance?

If so, nice move. I'm not a fan of big corporations (well, maybe I am of Apple), but you've got to admire a company that tries this hard to balance making profit with not doing evil.

[skully]

Or at least, not doing more evil.
 

[mungeclimber]

because they got slammed, and now they want to pull out is not doing the morally correct thing. It's just business as usual.


besides it's not a done deal. they still want to operate in cn and they have a lot of bargaining power.



pft

[skully]

Word.

[mynameismud]

Yes, according to the article they got "slammed".   What I admire in Google and I have not been a fan of Google.  Some of their corporate policies bother me.  

However, they made a call that no other large company has.  Companies that have been hit the same way that Google was was hit.

Google could have taken the stance other companies have taken.  Which is not only, we are not going to change, it is, we are going to keep this as quite as possible because we do not want to make a statement against China.

I see the statement itself some what bold in the current environment.  Hope they follow through.  

[mungeclimber]

actually Yahoo joined the PR bandwagon. saw an article title early (didn't read the whole thing)


it's just biz. externalities have caused the market to shift. It's not a 'policy' review in the sense that they are doing the right thing and consequently should be rewarded by your support.

this is warfare for lack of a better term. retribution?

if that's the policy you want to support, right on, but just trying to be clear about what the motivation is that should or should not be rewarded.

g'naw mean?

[mynameismud]

To a point. 

Google has a 30% percent share of the search engine market in China.  It could easily be more.  Even if it stayed at 30%, that is easily a $1 Billion a year market in the near future.

 From what I read Yahoo! stated they do not make the rules.  The rules are there, they just work with them.  So what ever China wants is what Yahoo! will put up with.

Google is taking a stand.  Props to them.

[mungeclimber]

dude, they are not taking a moral stand. they are responding to a gov't sponsored hack. They essentially admit that in the official blog post.

you think they can't get that market share back after the gov'ts (Sec of State has already sent the first message) of the world put pressure on them?

they were never going to be there like they are elsewhere, so this is only a short term loss. The stock market reflected it already, what, maybe a 3 dollar loss?  It's lucrative, but they can gain that back with their existing market share pole position in the rest of the world.

they couldn't just sit there. this is bigger than just money. this is espionage sponsored by the state.

[mynameismud]

Dude, everyone doing business there has been hacked.  Yahoo!, all of them.  That is the price of doing business there.  You either deal with it or you do not do business there.

I agree it isn't a moral stance.  They have just taken a stand not to do business in that environment.  I say HooRah.  More business need to take that stand.

They are not loosing market share because of the hack.  Hell people figure that is just the way it is.  They might, get some market share by walking.  They will probably loose more than they will gain.

What they do know is, no matter what Google says or does and no matter what China says.  China will not change their business practices.  They do not give a dam what you, Google or anyone else thinks.  They are right and everyone else is wrong.

[mynameismud]

Just want to say I love the Country and the people are fantastic.  But that Government is over the top.

[mungeclimber]

Dude, everyone doing business there has been hacked.  Yahoo!, all of them. 

heh, not hacked, backdoor access with they key handed over ahead of time.

[skully]

Remember who Murdered Tibet.
Just sayin'.

[mungeclimber]

more in the saga...

encrypted searching now becomes a focus?  hrm, wonder why?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/05/24/cnet.google.encrypted/index.html?hpt=T2

[mynameismud]

Nice option for many reasons.  Why didn't someone think of this 5 years ago.  This is so obvious.  Not to surprising it never really crossed my mind. 

I say, Good Job.

and, nice find.

[mungeclimber]

mudncrud@hotmail.com is available.

[mynameismud]

This will work well for my spam accounts

[F4?]

This will work well for my spam accounts

Are you selling Viagra on the side now?

[mynameismud]

need some?

[F4?]

mud  n    crud   not at     gmail isn't availible anymore....

so much for tormenting eric