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Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« on: October 16, 2011, 06:41:17 PM »
Finished pitch 1 of premeditated today. No nailing needed.

Will be back in two weeks to finish the 2nd pitch. Driving home now, will post TR soon. Gopro video of the entire 3 hours it took to lead it.

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2011, 08:45:50 PM »
Nice job!  Looking forward to the TR.

Hopefully you and the girlfriend are still together. :)


On Aid at Pinns... It's all A1 til it crumbles. - Munge

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #2 on: October 17, 2011, 08:40:15 AM »
Nice. I'll look forward to the trip report.

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2011, 03:51:02 PM »
Will get to the TR soon, still sorting through the video.

Here's a link to the picasa album of I have of the day.
https://picasaweb.google.com/111001858119976450058/PremeditatedPitch1101611?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCKeMsJXr9vSbtQE&feat=directlink

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2011, 03:55:40 PM »
It must be close to Pinns season, we've got two super Pinnacles related climbing threads going at once.

I'm loving the autumn days up here on granite 40 minutes from home, but I hear her calling...

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2011, 05:02:28 PM »
Kev!  You made her clean the pitch too!! ! OMG!!!

;)





I'm using those pics with my SO to show that I'm not such a bad guy.   ;)




Seriously though, nice job getting back in the saddle. Coming back to those things can be harder than going the first time.

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2011, 06:58:44 PM »
Awesome.
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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2011, 05:09:52 PM »
Good Work Kevin!

I can see that going at around C3ish/+ or so.  Munge had a few good cams on that pitch.  The only pins he had going were after you traverse into the plumb crack.  One was the most bomber pin I may have ever cleaned (Video of this somewhere).

P2 would be incredibly dangerous to try clean through the crux.   My hands are sweating just thinking about that!

Best of Luck on round Two!

***All ascents except possibly Barbella's(Which is not confirmed they made it to P2), have been after fixing a portion and returning at a later date.

No continous ascents of this pinnacles mega classic!


I remember that double cam (hold the flake in the middle) placement.  Thanks for the pics of pro.

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #8 on: October 19, 2011, 08:37:08 PM »
Cool pics, Cobbledik.  8)
Scope is good. I'm sure Bucky would approve.  ;D
Holy crap! oh, please little hook stay, please stay, that's right you're fine........And  Yes! off THAT manky shit. Whew.

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2011, 04:00:32 PM »
Hey Mucci, (or Munge, or anyone else that's been up there) do you think ball nuts will work on the arrow placements? I'm assuming the rock is too fractured for inverted cam hooks there? Also do you think there's any reason to bring my big Pika Hook? I'd rather not bring it if I don't have it since that thing scares the fuck out of me when it's hanging off of me; like climbing with a massive sword out of its sheath.

Also, how many other teams have done the first pitch clean? (just sort of egotistically wondering)

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #10 on: October 20, 2011, 05:04:54 PM »
I like ball nuts and have used them successfully at the Pins. 

I am fairly sure you are the only one with a hammer-less ascent.
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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #11 on: October 20, 2011, 05:25:59 PM »
Big hook off the belay might make the first move clean. 

If your going clean, bring the whole enchilada.  I would also hand place every pin I could.  Sew it up so tight, soooooo tight.

The roof/diagonal crack might take ball nuts suprisingly well, Probably a six pack of the blue Balls would be a good start.

The last few moves are through gravel, with not much for anything to grab on, hooking might bring you to the anchors.

Kevin, you have just set the new standard on the 1st pitch, Way to take your time and focus up there.

Let us know when you are going for round 2, photo's are great by a third party...

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #12 on: October 20, 2011, 05:46:38 PM »
We're planning on Camping East Side Friday night the 28th, driving around Sat morning the 29th, then making a reservation at the nearest hospital for Sun night the 30th.

I have a feeling that I may have freaked out my GF a bit when we were hiking in and I made her go over multiple times how to escape a belay if needed and where to run to if we needed help. Pretty sure she'll get freaked out even more when I make her repeat how to escape a hanging belay and rap on the remaining lead and tag line if necessary.

Part of our conversation on the hike in.
"So, how dangerous is this climb then?"
"Oh, it's fine. You know, like, it's, you know."
"So it's 'I know, fine' as in you can't get hurt?"
"Yeah, well, you know... it's... you know."
"Oh..."

That being said, there will be a hammer waiting at the belay with my iron juuuust a quick and tasty tag line away.

6 Blue ball nuts? I think I may have just thrown up in my mouth. (hehehehe, "blue balls")

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #13 on: October 20, 2011, 06:34:17 PM »
I do not think climbing with blue balls is a good idea. 
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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #14 on: October 20, 2011, 10:00:05 PM »
He said blue balls. he, he he.... :P

Are brass nuts on the gear list?
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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2011, 10:23:39 PM »
It's good to be back in the mud.

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2011, 06:02:01 AM »
If I can't send it clean, i'm looking forward to sticking my pecker into the soft mud. Then my GF with probably be able  to pull my pecker out with just her hands.

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2011, 07:46:22 AM »
Hopefully she cleans your blue balls with care.
Here's to sweat in your eye

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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2011, 11:28:22 AM »
be safe, but have fun!
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Re: Premeditated Part 1: Pitch 1 goes clean.
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2011, 09:15:11 PM »
Been working on a TR for a while now, I want to make TRs that are more like creative nonfiction, something more like art and less like a retelling of events. Anywho, it takes a bit longer than I'd like (things would be so much better if I didn't have a job wasting all my time.)

Here's an excerpt of what I'm working on for my premeditated TR.

"Once I’m in the crack, protection works in almost a predictable cam, cam, nut pattern. My memory reminds me of an obvious behind-the-head-on-the-right-sidewall placement in a pocket that took me 20 minutes to find on my last attempt. My memory did not remind me of the aura of fractures extending out from that same pocket. Bodyweight bomber, but who knows for a lead fall. I decorate the cam with a yellow and green screamer and move on.
   Climbing clean is always the intent. The main reason is to keep the rock in the same condition as you left it, very Boyscout motto-esque. The Pinnacles brings a different issue to the table.  My very presence changes the route, mini gravitational pulls as I stand in my aiders rips the dust from the wall as I pass by. My finger placed into a horizontal crack to feel the inside walls makes the entire bottom of the crack fall down to the ground. What is left is a gaping mouth, mimicking my own as I halfheartedly yell “rock.”
        Dixie had started out belaying from 20 feet away from the wall but gave up that position quickly once rocks started chasing her on the ricochet. From beneath an overhang at the base of the climb, she is protected as she stares away from the wall towards the saner routes on Machete Ridge and The Citadel
   I wonder how much of me is here to climb the rock and how much of me is here to retrace the steps of those that came before me.  Bridwell, Mucci, Mungeclimber, Brad Young, all climbers whose trip reports I have read over and over again. In the case of the Bird, reading books, articles, watching videos, and tracing my fingers over lines on topos like painted highway lines left behind for others to follow later.
   This idea of history is turned on its head on this route. I attempt statistical equations in my head. What percent of the rock that falls to the floor is part of that highway touched and paved by those before me? To carve out a new placement with the barest touch of my finger can be seen as holistic retrobolting as the path that Bridwell made with tied off bongs and angles crumbles to dust and spreads out into the wind between my feet and the ground.
   Aiding at the Pinnacles allows one to gain a first ascent with every step. Second ascents and all other ascents are made at the base of the climb as you step on the fallen past while flaking rope and preparing the rack."