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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #900 on: February 01, 2018, 07:39:04 PM »
Thanks for the work JC.  I have two of the no-longer made Big Bro #5 tube chocks (11.5-18.5") if you need to use them for the Roper Chimney.  I have also never done that route and it is on my list of interesting routes to do.

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #901 on: February 26, 2018, 08:52:14 AM »
As Dennis and Noal and I climbed yesterday, we looked down about half a mile to the top of Nebulous Knob.

Three hours. That's my estimate of how long one of our primary bolt-replacers was on top of that thing. Three hours of not climbing, but instead of laboring to make sure that yet another bolt replacement was done right.

I expect that the average member of the climbing community will never understand this level of work and dedication. Those of us on here do though. Nice work John.


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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #902 on: February 26, 2018, 08:56:45 AM »
As Dennis and Noal and I climbed yesterday, we looked down about half a mile to the top of Nebulous Knob.

Three hours. That's my estimate of how long one of our primary bolt-replacers was on top of that thing. Three hours of not climbing, but instead of laboring to make sure that yet another bolt replacement was done right.

I expect that the average member of the climbing community will never understand this level of work and dedication. Those of us on here do though. Nice work John.

Much appreciated Brad. I'll post some pics later today.
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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #903 on: February 26, 2018, 09:18:10 AM »
As Dennis and Noal and I climbed yesterday, we looked down about half a mile to the top of Nebulous Knob.

Three hours. That's my estimate of how long one of our primary bolt-replacers was on top of that thing. Three hours of not climbing, but instead of laboring to make sure that yet another bolt replacement was done right.

I expect that the average member of the climbing community will never understand this level of work and dedication. Those of us on here do though. Nice work John.

It was a good thing we were in the sun all day - or I might have been complaining while JC was up top working on the anchors  ;D   I need to take lessons from Brad and learn to put a book or magazine in my pack.  However, I did enjoy watching the condor show yesterday.  The most I counted at one time was eight.  They were flying fairly low and were mainly around all the formations along the Pipsqueak Ridge.   :)

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #904 on: February 26, 2018, 10:04:30 AM »
Three hours?  Are you retired or something?  Keep up the good work!

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #905 on: February 26, 2018, 10:05:52 AM »

Three hours?  Are you retired or something?  Keep up the good work!


Hey, don't you have a re-model to attend to?

Or go shovel the driveway or something....

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #906 on: February 26, 2018, 01:10:22 PM »
Yeah, John keep up the good work.  Truly impressive body of work with all the old bolts you have replaced.
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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #907 on: February 26, 2018, 03:19:16 PM »
Kat and I had quite the adventure working on Nebulous Knob yesterday.
We did a recon hike past there last weekend.
Here's a few shots from working on Nebulous Knob.

The white streak you see just above center photo is tat on the lead bolt. The location of the bolt relative to the stance was interesting. I sat down to work on it. I would say it was either drilled sitting down or from a kneeling position. By the time you move up to reach those knobs on the left (one of which is cracked and wiggly), the bolt is below your feet. Moving past the knobs is the second crux.





I climbed to the summit and replaced the anchor first. The old single anchor bolt was a quarter incher with a smash link in so so rock. Based on the rock quality, I decided to relocate the anchor and aim the rappel back down the route. The hanger on the old bolt was tight and oriented to put you over the left side of the formation relative to the route (the left skyline in the picture above). The rappel in that direction is much longer and would deposit you well below the start in poison oak.

Here is a picture of the old anchor bolt which I left for the sake of history.





Here is a picture of the replacement anchor with the old, single anchor bolt shown above.





After I finished working on the anchor, Kat followed the route (thanks for your patience Kat) and I rapped down to replace the lead bolt.





The lead bolt was tight in the rock but the hanger had enough room behind it to get the tuning fork in as shown. For this picture I merely slid it behind with my fingers and had not hammered it in yet. I drove the fork to its limit and then slid the bolt out with almost no pressure on the crowbar. I could have left the crowbar at home. A little wiggling with fingers would have accomplished the desired result. I have serious doubts that the bolt would have held a leader fall, especially given how far you are above it when you are making the crux moves.





Two inch long, quarter inch compression bolt showing no compression and an inch and a quarter embedment (the hole was under drilled). The nut was screwed all the way down until it bottomed out (ran out of threads). That is why the hanger was loose. FA 1965.




Parting shot showing the replacement lead bolt.





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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #908 on: February 26, 2018, 03:30:28 PM »
I simply will not miss old bolts like those. I agree with leaving the one on top for history's sake. But otherwise, good riddance.

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #909 on: February 26, 2018, 03:38:12 PM »
Yeah, John keep up the good work.  Truly impressive body of work with all the old bolts you have replaced.

Thanks Mud. There is still lots of old stuff to climb and work on. The list will likely outlast me!
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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #910 on: February 26, 2018, 06:11:53 PM »
Excellent work JC.  I looked at that climb once and decided against it after viewing that lead bolt with the tat from the start.

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #911 on: February 26, 2018, 09:06:55 PM »
Excellent work JC.  I looked at that climb once and decided against it after viewing that lead bolt with the tat from the start.

It's a long way up but when you get there you'll be greeted by this lovely sight.





The start is a bit hairy but there is an okay(not great) small tree you can tether behind all the boulders.

If I compare this climb to Punctuation Pinnacle at 5.1X, I thought Nebulous was way scarier.
On Punctuation you are on easy slab to a short headwall at the top.
On Nebulous the exposure and commitment are in your face right from the start. As Noal would say it's Old School cool  :biggrin: :thumbup:
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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #912 on: March 02, 2018, 10:00:32 AM »
Peregrine.

Did the first pitch a few months ago, every bolt looked original? Old stars with leepers. Was stoked to do the second and third pitch (aiding the second, cuz im mortal), but we were low on daylight. Maybe a good thing...

Emailed FOP and was promptly replied to positively, just posting here because I'm an antsy shmuck. Cant wait for the wall to open.

Anything to spend more time on the Balconies   ;D

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #913 on: March 02, 2018, 11:34:50 AM »
Peregrine is a good candidate for rebolting.

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #914 on: March 02, 2018, 01:49:10 PM »
Thanks! I've been stalking all you guys on here a while, finaly felt I had something to contribute. Weather and daylight permitting, I go to pinns once or twice a week on average. Weekdays mostly. If I can ever be of service in any way I would be honored.

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #915 on: March 02, 2018, 04:06:02 PM »
JC, was good to see you and KC on the rock (yes we were stalking you guys), and in the parking lot.

I've been stalking all you guys on here a while
I go to pinns once or twice a week on average. Weekdays mostly. If I can ever be of service in any way I would be honored.

Wow. Two admitted stalkings in under a week.

Zay...Now you are in trouble (always looking for volunteers).  :yesnod: :devildevil: :lol: I sent you a message.
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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #916 on: March 02, 2018, 05:14:04 PM »
I'm really, really good at getting into trouble. Replied, sorry if double emails... still figuring out the forum-mat

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #917 on: March 03, 2018, 10:17:11 AM »
With this group I do not think there is any honor, lol.  It is more like, Wow, someone that will actually tolerate us.
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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #918 on: March 03, 2018, 11:00:05 AM »
 I beg to differ, who wouldn't tolerate us? We are so refreshingly despicable.
Causing trouble when not climbing.

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Re: Official Rebolting and Route Hardware suggestion thread
« Reply #919 on: March 03, 2018, 01:48:29 PM »
Tolerate is the key word....ice cold beer is a favorite phrase.
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