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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #60 on: March 11, 2014, 07:19:02 PM »
'Brad, to your point about drill and fill with good stuff, having seen how fast a shorty can go in, I'm leaning toward shorty bolts for big wall FAs, interspersed with good belays. Josh has me convinced. Still don't like the quarter inchers for crag routes."  Munge

Munge, I've got a box of 1" x 1/4" Stars if you want them.  They're the bad bolts from Bill's Bad.  I mentioned to Brad that I used these babies (circa 1986) as the Pinns equivalent of dowels.  I'd place three or four before placing a longer Star. It worked, though I took a flight when I stood on one of the last ones.

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #61 on: March 11, 2014, 07:32:43 PM »
Damn, I read all this sh#t and I wonder why the hell I still climb. I guess though that one hospital visit in 31 years of climbing isn't all that bad.

Here's Dave Harden's version of my March 18, 1999 crash and burn:

"A nice sunny day in Yosemite with Brad and Ron started with a couple of obscure, semi-worthless routes at Sunnyside Bench just to do something new. Then Brad took off on a lead of Sultans of Sling. About thirty feet up, his feet cut loose and he popped off. I was belaying, and it looked and felt like a normal leader fall. A split second later everything changed. His protection slowed his descent but then ripped out, and the next two pieces fractured a chunk of granite; he cratered right in front of me. Then fifty or a hundred pounds of rock landed on him.
   Needless to say, Ron and I were freaking out. Brad was screaming bloody murder, and we were trying to get him to hold still, suspecting spinal cord damage while pulling rocks off of him. Fortunately his head and neck were uninjured. After we quickly stabilized him and did a primary survey, Ron blasted down to the car to get help started. Before too long, Brad was in the clinic getting pumped full of morphine and having head-to-toe x-rays to determine the extent of his injuries. A monster of a hematoma on his thigh looked the worst, but then an x-ray revealed a separated pelvis. Miraculously, nothing was broken. The pain of widespread abrasions, contusions, and ripped muscles was moderated by the drugs. That night he was in a hospital in Modesto. Bad day."

A few other points:

-  The first two pieces that "ripped out" were the two smallest RPs (brass nuts) on my rack. There were very, very limited pro possibilities in that spot.

-  The next two pieces down are the ones that blew out chunks of rock. In my defense, these were well placed, medium sized gear. Although I saw a slight fracture nearby, there were no other protection possibilities at all here.  I commented to Ron and Dave about the fracture, but it was, after all, Yosemite granite, and the fracture was slight. I went on.

-  Both Dave and Ron are Wilderness First Aid Responders (at the time Ron was a YOSAR volunteer). Twenty seconds after I hit, an emergency room nurse from Florida, in Yosemite on vacation, walked up to the scene. She had her cell phone in hand and called 911. I was then 1/4 mile from the Yosemite medical clinic.

-  Vicki has never forgotten Dave's words when he telephoned her (after I was already into the clinic): "Hi Vicki, this is Dave. He's going to be alright, but..."

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #62 on: March 11, 2014, 07:39:46 PM »
Damn, I read all this sh#t and I wonder why the hell I still climb. I guess though that one hospital visit in 31 years of climbing isn't all that bad.

Here's Dave Harden's version of my March 18, 1999 crash and burn:

"A nice sunny day in Yosemite with Brad and Ron started with a couple of obscure, semi-worthless routes at Sunnyside Bench just to do something new. Then Brad took off on a lead of Sultans of Sling. About thirty feet up, his feet cut loose and he popped off. I was belaying, and it looked and felt like a normal leader fall. A split second later everything changed. His protection slowed his descent but then ripped out, and the next two pieces fractured a chunk of granite; he cratered right in front of me. Then fifty or a hundred pounds of rock landed on him.
   Needless to say, Ron and I were freaking out. Brad was screaming bloody murder, and we were trying to get him to hold still, suspecting spinal cord damage while pulling rocks off of him. Fortunately his head and neck were uninjured. After we quickly stabilized him and did a primary survey, Ron blasted down to the car to get help started. Before too long, Brad was in the clinic getting pumped full of morphine and having head-to-toe x-rays to determine the extent of his injuries. A monster of a hematoma on his thigh looked the worst, but then an x-ray revealed a separated pelvis. Miraculously, nothing was broken. The pain of widespread abrasions, contusions, and ripped muscles was moderated by the drugs. That night he was in a hospital in Modesto. Bad day."

A few other points:

-  The first two pieces that "ripped out" were the two smallest RPs (brass nuts) on my rack. There were very, very limited pro possibilities in that spot.

-  The next two pieces down are the ones that blew out chunks of rock. In my defense, these were well placed, medium sized gear. Although I saw a slight fracture nearby, there were no other protection possibilities at all here.  I commented to Ron and Dave about the fracture, but it was, after all, Yosemite granite, and the fracture was slight. I went on.

-  Both Dave and Ron are Wilderness First Aid Responders (at the time Ron was a YOSAR volunteer). Twenty seconds after I hit, an emergency room nurse from Florida, in Yosemite on vacation, walked up to the scene. She had her cell phone in hand and called 911. I was then 1/4 mile from the Yosemite medical clinic.

-  Vicki has never forgotten Dave's words when he telephoned her (after I was already into the clinic): "Hi Vicki, this is Dave. He's going to be alright, but..."

Tough read but a good one
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #63 on: March 11, 2014, 07:42:29 PM »
Accepted for good and valuable consideration Waldo. I'll take delivery Sunday at Ridge Rock.:)
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #64 on: March 11, 2014, 07:51:55 PM »
Sheesh, I never heard that one?

I think Brad has us beat based on the rock ripping and landing on him!
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2014, 07:59:00 PM »

I think Brad has us beat based on the rock ripping and landing on him!


I'd go for tied with you. Seeing you cartwheeling down that face was full on, full on scary. I couldn't believe you were as OK as you were afterward. What a relief.

I still remember Stacy's reaction that day to me screaming at her and Rob to come over NOW (she told me this later). Her first thought was along the lines of "WTF is his problem." Next I screamed: "and bring the first aid kit." Then she understood.

About four years after my fall I went back to Sunnyside Bench with Skelton. He showed me the biggest piece of rock that had landed on me. It was pretty sobering.

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2014, 08:01:34 PM »
Yuck! I'm curious, did you end up climbing the route? The route that bit me I've never been back up.
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2014, 08:04:55 PM »
Yuck! I'm curious, did you end up climbing the route? The route that bit me I've never been back up.

Nope, I never went back on Sultans of Sling. I'm not even sure it's protectable now.

What happened to you Squiddo and on what route?

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #68 on: March 11, 2014, 08:17:34 PM »
Puss in Boots in Jtree back in the early 90's. Sport route bolt at my feet and I went 25 feet. Stoned partner (drugs are bad mmmmmkay) and I hit the lower angle slab and spun my ankle on the way down.

Nope never been back and I'm fine with that:-)
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #69 on: March 11, 2014, 08:19:06 PM »
I'd go for tied with you. Seeing you cartwheeling down that face was full on, full on scary. I couldn't believe you were as OK as you were afterward. What a relief.

I still remember Stacy's reaction that day to me screaming at her and Rob to come over NOW (she told me this later). Her first thought was along the lines of "WTF is his problem." Next I screamed: "and bring the first aid kit." Then she understood.

About four years after my fall I went back to Sunnyside Bench with Skelton. He showed me the biggest piece of rock that had landed on me. It was pretty sobering.

That was with Staci there? I thought she was there for Matt's header fall?
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #70 on: March 11, 2014, 08:38:52 PM »
I think for Both.

I would say Matt get a nod for Spatter Matt.  Almost up on the ledge on crumbly rock dyno's for a knob that rips the he is off backwards. He hits his foot and does a header right into the rock.  He then spins around and a geyser of blood sprays out in a arch.  I was not belaying but I was a witness.  He walked out.  Sal carries his pack and kept him off the deck by about 3 feet.

A Month later the was still red on the nearby plants a bit on the rock. 
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #71 on: March 11, 2014, 08:51:37 PM »
That was with Staci there? I thought she was there for Matt's header fall?


She was there for both. She had just finished her Wilderness First Aid Responder class. She used it on Matt and then on Eric, both at The Yaks, two weeks and ten feet apart.

After she'd dressed Eric's lacerations, and as we were getting ready to walk out, I quietly said to Staci: "Stace, maybe we shouldn't come out to the Yaks with you any more."

She looked at me and smiled. Then she said: "Maybe you shouldn't come out to the Yaks without me."

I've never forgotten that comment.

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #72 on: March 11, 2014, 08:53:50 PM »
Puss in Boots in Jtree back in the early 90's. Sport route bolt at my feet and I went 25 feet. Stoned partner (drugs are bad mmmmmkay) and I hit the lower angle slab and spun my ankle on the way down.

Nope never been back and I'm fine with that:-)

How bad was the ankle?

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #73 on: March 11, 2014, 09:02:16 PM »
How bad was the ankle?

Very bad but thanks fully not an open fracture. Until surgery they is....2 screws later good as new
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #74 on: March 11, 2014, 09:07:01 PM »
Very bad but thanks fully not an open fracture. Until surgery they is....2 screws later good as new

Surgery is pretty bad. Funny thing, I've had some screws that left me feeling as good as new too.

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #75 on: March 11, 2014, 09:17:08 PM »
Surgery is pretty bad. Funny thing, I've had some screws that left me feeling as good as new too.

Yep healed better than the torn ligaments in the other ankle:/)
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #76 on: March 11, 2014, 09:19:45 PM »
Yep healed better than the torn ligaments in the other ankle:/)

Yeah, I've never had surgery though.

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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #77 on: March 11, 2014, 10:23:57 PM »
come on Squiddo, you gotta be quicker than that.
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #78 on: March 12, 2014, 07:58:53 AM »
Pause





While we try to regain composure.




Nope, save yourselves.
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Re: Darwin Awards
« Reply #79 on: March 12, 2014, 08:28:23 AM »
So Jon, how far did Geoff fall altogether, and how many feet was your DNB plunge?

Geoff fell 35ft i think. On the DNB I almost regained the correct route but fell 25ft or so slapping a ledge barely with my ankle as the belay stopped me. One foot more of slack could have been big trouble. The correct way was a pleasant 5.7 on ugly looking rock I had passed by.
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