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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #520 on: March 27, 2022, 10:49:15 AM »
And I never knew that it was a song - just looked it up myself and wow!

I copy/pasted the military history event that the song was written about... during the attack on Pearl Harbor:

"According to writer Jack S. McDowell, the famous phrase is generally credited to "a chaplain," said to be manning the guns of a ship under attack. "This was not true," says McDowell. For some time, long after Pearl Harbor, stories and reports surfaced about an incident involving this apocryphal "sky pilot", who was said to have uttered the words "Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition".

The stories eventually made their way through the servicemen and back to the press. This, as McDowell noted, led some writers to erroneously identify other chaplains as author of the phrase. Nonetheless, the real chaplain, LTJG Howell M. Forgy, was aboard the USS New Orleans during the Japanese attack.

Lieutenant Edwin F. Woodhead, who was the officer in charge of an ammunition line on the USS New Orleans later recounted that during the attack, "I heard a voice behind me saying, 'Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition.' I turned and saw Chaplain Forgy walking toward me, along the line of men. He was patting them on the back and making that remark to cheer and keep them going. I know it helped me a lot, too."

Another lieutenant said that thereafter, when the men heard the song, they would kid Chaplain Forgy about the role he played, encouraging him to set the record straight about who actually said what. According to the same officer the chaplain would decline, modestly claiming he felt, "... the episode should remain a legend, rather than be associated with any particular person." Author McDowell noted that reporters eventually were permitted to interview the men of the USS New Orleans involved in the "ammunition" story. Chaplain Forgy's superior officers set up a meeting with members of the press and at last, the real story of the song and the man who had inspired it was confirmed."


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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #521 on: March 27, 2022, 11:38:59 AM »
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I was playing David Crosby and Graham Nash songs that day...

 That reminds me, I'm still young in a hearty way.
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« Reply #522 on: March 27, 2022, 01:01:28 PM »
That reminds me, I'm still young in a hearty way.

Reading the name Woodhead reminded me of you.

Jeez that was a lot of reading!
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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #523 on: March 27, 2022, 01:38:06 PM »

 One of my goals in life is to stump you. Still, it beats gnashing teeth, as any chaplain would know.

 Turn the other turret, sounds Old Testament.

 
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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #524 on: March 27, 2022, 08:37:51 PM »
Kline, place JC in round room and ask him to sit in a corner.
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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #525 on: March 28, 2022, 03:41:23 PM »
...the things I could say. But I'm older now and more restrained in my comments.

You are clearly confused.
As we get older the filter comes off or gets clogged and has to be removed to keep the flow unrestricted.

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #526 on: April 25, 2022, 05:38:59 PM »
With Waldo's help, I got there again today. I've done every route at Pinnacles that is easier than 5.10, in good style.

The first time I got to this point, I thought that maybe my time at Pinnacles was coming to an end. That was pretty naive. The place still has stuff to offer me, and I think it always will.

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #527 on: April 25, 2022, 07:49:52 PM »
 
 That’s because Pinnacles is like an onion or an ogre.
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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #528 on: April 25, 2022, 08:35:46 PM »
That sounds highly philosophical. But I have no idea what it means  :P

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #529 on: April 26, 2022, 06:42:58 AM »
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That sounds highly philosophical. But I have no idea what it means  :P

 It is so highly philosophical that it orbits over the heads of many brilliant people, sometimes comfortably at the distance of L2.

 In short, let's say you are a donkey that wandered one day into the land of Pinnacles, which in turn happens to be an inert form of a very much alive ogre, who(not which) changes into a living character for the sake of having a conversation with you. Yes, you, a talking donkey and Pinnacles, the former Monument and now in the form of an ogre are strolling along and having a conversation.

 SIDENOTE; Meanwhile, mighty, supposed kings of the West stir in distaste and jealous anger at Pinnacles again assuming it's ogre form...

 Sorry to interupt this account of an utterly simple conversation and such beautiful truth, but work calls. I will gently continue later.
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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #530 on: April 26, 2022, 09:50:41 AM »
Oh! Now I get it.

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #531 on: April 30, 2022, 03:23:43 PM »

Not sure what both of you are on but I may want to raid your stash. Party on Wayne...
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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #532 on: May 01, 2022, 06:30:21 AM »

It may be some fantasmal delusion he cooked up after reading something at the lieberry - in which case...never mind...
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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #533 on: May 01, 2022, 06:34:21 AM »
It may be ANOTHER fantasmal delusion he cooked up after reading something at the lieberry - in which case...never mind...

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #534 on: May 01, 2022, 03:58:18 PM »
Speaking as an ogre who likes onions, I'd like to suggest that climbers of a certain age get free use of the donkey when descending from the High Peaks.

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #535 on: May 02, 2022, 12:10:24 PM »
Serious question:

Are there any actual laws that would prohibit use of a donky or mule on trails at Pinnacles?

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #536 on: May 02, 2022, 12:25:44 PM »
^^^

It's also an interesting question. And I for one have absolutely no idea.

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #537 on: May 02, 2022, 02:51:07 PM »
No you cannot ride or bring stock animals on trails at Pinnacles.  Many national parks allow stock animals.  It is stated on each park's website what area and trails they are allowed.. Some allow you to bring your own  for example Yellowstone,  Death Valley.  Others offer them through concession companies.

I believe the idea to offer horseback riding at Pinnacles was thrown around  when it became a National Park to increase revenue but it did not happen.

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #538 on: May 03, 2022, 06:27:20 AM »
Yep, Noal is correct. Stock have only been used sporadically by trails crew staff on trails at Pinnacles, when heavy gear for trails projects needs to be transported. Otherwise stock aren't allowed on trails.

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Re: Pinnacles Climbing: 30 Years and Counting
« Reply #539 on: May 03, 2022, 08:07:07 AM »
 I’m sure that if one brought your emotional support donkey on the trail and explained that you are bipolar and at times could be quite an ass yourself, the rangers would be understanding.
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