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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2780 on: September 21, 2025, 10:01:49 AM »
Ryan and I decided to take advantage of the phenomenal conditions yesterday. We figured a good start to Pinnacles season would be doing Forty Days of Rain. After feeling around on it, we both felt it was a bit of a sandbag and were deciding to bail. As we were packing up, this total Brah showed up out of the caves equipped with a crash pad and bongs explaining it took TD 3.5 yrs to redpoint this climb, its best to nail it for your first time around.

He showed us the beta:



We then followed suit. Also not sure where the the crucial #3 goes, we placed other gear but nothing bigger than a #1.








Semi unrelated, I took advantage of Santa Cruz's primary product, cut bike locks. Made a homemade funkness device, that worked well but the thimble came out of place.

Good to get back to this place. Climbing on solid granite is just too exciting for me. Good to get out and do chill cragging with friends again.

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2781 on: September 21, 2025, 04:55:36 PM »
Dude, "brahs" gotta be 35 years old or less. That guy in your photo looks old and shriveled. Don't put us on (or don't children these days say "gaslight?").

I laughed at your comment about "primary product" although it's quite sad. I wish it weren't true.

Still not Pinnacles season if you live this close to nice granite. We put up a new, 110 foot, three star 5.7 today (which Joel would not stop ranting about - I thought I was the one who got to rant, not him). About 80 feet of bolted face and then one looks up and the bolts just stop... A few moves up and... holy wow, where did that fantastic crack come from? Nice exposure.

Established another, two star 5.7 and a 5.8 that "could have been a contender." The 5.8 starts with an absolutely gorgeous finger crack in perfect granite that is completely clean.

And then the crack runs out after 20 feet and easy face follows to moderate face. Damn!

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2782 on: September 21, 2025, 04:56:31 PM »
And did you both lead the roof? Kinda hard to clean it, huh?

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2783 on: September 22, 2025, 05:08:25 AM »
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Ryan and I decided to take advantage of the phenomenal conditions yesterday. We figured a good start to Pinnacles season would be doing Forty Days of Rain. After feeling around on it, we both felt it was a bit of a sandbag and were deciding to bail. As we were packing up, this total Brah showed up out of the caves equipped with a crash pad and bongs explaining it took TD 3.5 yrs to redpoint this climb, its best to nail it for your first time around.

He showed us the beta:

40 Days of Rain? Did you do the Noah's No Compass Variation? Libel at The Lip?

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Dude, "brahs" gotta be 35 years old or less. That guy in your photo looks old and shriveled. Don't put us on (or don't children these days say "gaslight?").

 Only total Brah's say dude.



 
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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2784 on: September 22, 2025, 10:49:10 AM »
And did you both lead the roof? Kinda hard to clean it, huh?

I learned a few things watching Marco clean it, and heard some interesting guesses from hikers passing by as to what the heck he was doing up there. We both lead the route, but as I went second I took advantage of the pitons and cams that Marco placed through the roof on his lead.


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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2785 on: September 22, 2025, 10:54:06 AM »
I learned a few things watching Marco clean it, and heard some interesting guesses from hikers passing by as to what the heck he was doing up there. We both lead the route, but as I went second I took advantage of the pitons and cams that Marco placed through the roof on his lead.



The photo shows obvious cheating.

The kid only weighs 95 pounds....

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2786 on: September 22, 2025, 06:18:48 PM »
The kid only weighs 95 pounds....

I wish, that would be aid.


Only total Brah's say dude.
^ This dude gets it

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2787 on: December 12, 2025, 09:24:30 AM »
Greetings crud enthusiasts

Say, what time would you have to show up to snag a bear gulch parking spot on saturday?

Want to make sure it's not all BAP'ed up before these MBAPs show up  ;D


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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2788 on: December 12, 2025, 09:28:09 AM »
Brad, I thought we establish routes, not put them up, like in a climbing gym
Can't remember how many times I was corrected for this one  :eeeek:

Dude, "brahs" gotta be 35 years old or less. That guy in your photo looks old and shriveled. Don't put us on (or don't children these days say "gaslight?").

I laughed at your comment about "primary product" although it's quite sad. I wish it weren't true.

Still not Pinnacles season if you live this close to nice granite. We  :yikes: :yikes: :yikes: put up  :yikes: :yikes:  a new, 110 foot, three star 5.7 today (which Joel would not stop ranting about - I thought I was the one who got to rant, not him). About 80 feet of bolted face and then one looks up and the bolts just stop... A few moves up and... holy wow, where did that fantastic crack come from? Nice exposure.

Established another, two star 5.7 and a 5.8 that "could have been a contender." The 5.8 starts with an absolutely gorgeous finger crack in perfect granite that is completely clean.

And then the crack runs out after 20 feet and easy face follows to moderate face. Damn!

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2789 on: December 13, 2025, 12:25:44 AM »
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Say, what time would you have to show up to snag a bear gulch parking spot on saturday?

It's not as bad during the winter, but we rolled into the lot at 8am last Sunday and wouldn't have had a spot an hour later. In better general visitor conditions, 8am is pretty much the cut off!


Greetings all! My buddy Hung and I had a quest last weekend, so I thought I'd make an update. We got into the lot about 8am with the intention of heading out into the boonies past the Reservior to get up near The Hand/Frog. Most of the hike was uneventful, having been to Crud N Mud before, but after we got out to where you cross back over the drainage and approach directly became a bit adventurous. On the way out, we figured out what was what, but we needed to go about 20 yards further out before crossing over. The way we went involved a LOT of brushwhacking. I've never before crawled on my hands and knees on an approach, but I have now!

In any case, we arrived after this bit of the expedition, and took a look at Love Line on The Hand. Brad's 2007 book calls this route 5.10b. Mountain Project has it tagged at 10b/c, and a 2014 comment suggests 10d was discussed. So, it's solidly a 10, I guess. Beyond that, I'd certainly call my experience on the first pitch 10+. The lower portion of pitch 1 is pretty approachable, with the crux kicking in around bolt 4. I took a good fall between 4 and 5, and it was feeling pretty heads up given the rock quality. This isn't a regularly climbed line, and it shows. I'd also say that bolts 5-7 here weren't the most confidence inspiring, but they were better when I remembered which orientation of SMC was the death hanger. None here. The line heads up and a little left before returning to the "Love Seat" belay, which is where the rap line in the photo is set up from.



You can also get a sense of the climb from above here. Hung had a hard time even on Top Rope, and I was really glad I could actually see what he was up to while he was climbing so that I could keep him pretty tight. We definitely cleaned some stuff off of this one, both intentionally and not.



The second pitch starts with several bolts of traversing up and left. The climbing isn't wildly hard, but it does feel pretty exposed. After 5 bolts, climbing gets vertical, but does require pulling on some slightly less solid stuff for a second to get through the crux. From there, you've got another couple bolts before topping out. Mostly, it's the head game and the route finding that is hard with the second pitch. After bringing your second up, there's a fairly straightforward scramble to climber's right to a rap anchor that heads straight down the water chute. That one puts your back on the Love Seat, followed by one more to the ground. They're nice raps too, with some air and everything.



Given the bushwhacking and time we took getting up Love Line, plus the early sunset, we ended up not hitting The Snail, or The Frog, which is a shame. I still need to get at The Fast Lane and Get a Grip on The Frog, especially.

Monday was spent on The Monolith, and given how cold it was over night, I'm still surprised it ended up being very warm on Lunch Rock for the whole morning. We climbed Subterranean Tango as a warm up and to get a top rope over to POD (Hung got his Redpoint!), and then I started working on beta. I've been on it in 2023, and again in February this year. But trying to remember the beta is so important, because piecing it together on the wall is SO hard with this one. Literally anything bigger than a marble that's embedded within 6' of the bolt line on either side on this one has chalk on it, whether it's actually usable or not. I blame it on the frequency with which I see folks flailing around on this one on TR.

After two runs on TR, I've got some pretty functional beta, so I'm now on to redpoint burns on lead. I tried once, and fell at the crux, but worked through things a bit more, and feel good about some tries with a full tank.


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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2790 on: December 13, 2025, 07:15:04 AM »

Brad, I thought we establish routes, not put them up, like in a climbing gym
Can't remember how many times I was corrected for this one  :eeeek:


Damn Beano, it's really sad to see that you're developing CRAFT at such a young age.*

The only "word" that doesn't apply to first ascents is "set." You've heard me whine and snivel about the phrase who "set" that route which still makes me cringe. Setting occurs only in a gym and to apply it outdoors is, well, modern (with all the trend-following that that implies).

Great trip report, Natalie. I still remember when I had a full tank. But perpetually half full or not, I'm still having a lot of fun.

Let us know when you get your redpoint?  And who "set" that route anyway?

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2791 on: December 14, 2025, 09:13:02 AM »
Couldn't have asked for better conditions on the Citadel yesterday.  Once again, cold morning temps in the Chaparral lot and frost across the footbridges led to a bubble of warm air up Citadel Canyon starting abruptly at an elevation about level with the base of Whitetail.  Wes and I took a circuitous route to cover both Nightman Cometh and Drawn and Cornered in one pass (up to P2 anchor of NC, rap back to P1 anchor of NC, pull the rope, lead D&C back to P2 anchor of NC, finish NC to the Flying None and the summit).  Both are great additions to the area from Marco and Gavin.  Fun position on both and wild movement through the crux of Drawn and Cornered.

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2792 on: December 14, 2025, 03:32:53 PM »
Nice, Kurt - glad you liked the routes. We felt pretty good about how they turned out. The crux on Drawn & Cornered is fun, and I like the movement up through the arching corner to the P2 anchor. Definitely both nice lines.

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2793 on: December 20, 2025, 03:45:20 PM »
Hi! Does anyone have route recommendations for a first time TR climbing visit to Pinnacles? I’m coming home for the holidays from Arizona and Pinnacles seems to be the best place for TR in the area. I’m familiar with the park and used to hike there a lot when I lived in Cali, but never climbed there. Disc wall seems to be a popular spot on MP, but I figured I’d ask the experts of the park here.
Similarly, if there are other TR crags you recommend in the South Bay Area, I’d be interested in hearing about them.

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2794 on: December 20, 2025, 08:53:52 PM »
Was walking the beach today and saw something that reminded me of pinnacles


Look at all those holds on the ground!!

Welcome Sabuber, that's a spicy subject. Many of these keyboard warriors would suggest that you get to leading, starting with some easy stuff. TR is hard to come by. I think there's a 5.8 below discovery wall, maybe below tiburcio's x. Also rat race, but that's not very exciting. I CRAFT the rest.

There are easy leads though that are not too run out. Let's see what they suggest ;)

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2795 on: December 21, 2025, 07:24:11 AM »

Similarly, if there are other TR crags you recommend in the South Bay Area, I’d be interested in hearing about them.

California Ridge, Chew Tooth, and the Underworld all have very straightforward TR access at Castle Rock.  All are within 5 minutes of each other and about 10-15 minutes from parking.  Unfortunately the wet weather makes access tricky.  Check the park website for closures and wait a few days after any rain is recorded up there to avoid breaking holds. Cal Ridge is exposed and gets sun, so it would be the best option this time of year if we get a few days of dry weather.

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2796 on: December 21, 2025, 08:06:51 AM »
Sabuber, what grade range are you looking at?

Deep Groove Wall, a bit past the Reservoir at Pinnacles, has a few fun 5.7-5.9 climbs that can be TRed. Their anchors can be accessed by an easy, low exposure 10' scramble up the backside of the formation. Soecifics about it are here: https://www.mudncrud.com/forums/index.php?topic=3025.0

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2797 on: December 21, 2025, 07:09:10 PM »
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  TR is hard to come by. 

There are probably hundreds of routes at  Pinnacles that you can walk or do an easy scramble , toss a rope.down and TR.  The tricky part is if you want mutiple routes at one spot with top access.  Good spot for that could be Upper Crust or if you want to hike a little further Crud and Mud.

Aint nothin wrong with a little TR.  A wise man once said "Everybody looks good on toperope" But hey, what do I know ?I'm just a BAP.


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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2798 on: December 22, 2025, 10:22:06 AM »
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I'm just a BAP

So are you a Bas Ass Performer, or a Bas Ass Panda?   :P

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Re: Quest for Mud (Special Edition)
« Reply #2799 on: December 22, 2025, 10:47:24 AM »
Brilliance Against Perjury.

Sabuber, there are so many formations and routes that might fit your parameters that it's hard to comment without writing an essay (which I kinda did by way of the '07 guidebook).

I'd suggest that you give Discovery Wall a try but that you also leave a few hours to wander around the place and check other stuff out? Or, if it's wet but not raining (and so, not climbable) just check stuff out and enjoy the park for a day?