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Re: All the Pretty Guidebooks
« Reply #40 on: April 03, 2018, 10:54:44 PM »
Thanks for posting those photos climber dude. I have wanted a copy of that thing for awhile so it's cool to see.  If anyone has a copy and does not consider it a legit guide or does not value it for some reason I am willing to purchase it from you.


Richards  was by no means perfect and yeah he did some bad stuff but despite his shortcomings and bad decisions it is obvious that he had a love for the Pinnacles.

A big influence on my life is the D.I.Y. punk scene of the late 1980's and 90's.  When I was a teenager we formed bands, booked our own shows across the country, put out our own records, Xeroxed our own flyers and magazines (Like richard's guide) printed our own t shirts and created our own culture and scene .

When I started climbing i was really struck by the similarities  there are between the D.I.Y. scene and climbers.  Both groups drove around the country in vans, slept on friends floors/ camped out,were resourceful, and generally had a seperate lifestyle from the mainstream. 

Unfortunately in both groups there were some vibrant, bright, entertaining characters, who succumbed to drug addiction, alcohol abuse, and depression. Some of these folks were a pleasure to be around and some were real bastards but definitely free spirits.

There is a lot of beauty in imperfection.  It is easier to demonize and judge someone than it is try to find commonalities and forgiveness.  Richards is a part of Pinnacles climbing history whether you like it or not. Warts and all. May his soul be in a better place.








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Re: All the Pretty Guidebooks
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2018, 06:56:38 AM »

Well said Noal.  :yesnod: :thumbup: :biggrin:
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Re: All the Pretty Guidebooks
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2018, 07:57:08 AM »
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Re: All the Pretty Guidebooks
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2018, 09:13:02 AM »
I like where it says call collect for route info.  There's a certain charm about understanding the need to call collect BITD.

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« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2018, 09:26:29 AM »

I like where it says call collect for route info.  There's a certain charm about understanding the need to call collect BITD.


Notice too that Carmel was in the (408) area code then!

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« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2018, 07:34:14 PM »
Imagine there were originally only 3 area codes for California.
415 went all the way to Bakersfield.  Everybody was under the BAP code.

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« Reply #46 on: April 13, 2018, 05:44:37 PM »
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Notice too that Carmel was in the (408) area code then!
Lousy Central Coast folks...we finally kicked them and the Santa Cruz folks out of 408.

When I got james a phone in December 408 was not available!
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Re: All the Pretty Guidebooks
« Reply #47 on: April 14, 2018, 09:13:55 AM »
Imagine there were originally only 3 area codes for California.
415 went all the way to Bakersfield.  Everybody was under the BAP code.

So, Brad at heart is a BAP
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« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2018, 08:10:52 AM »
NOAL  The punk thing was big is my life too, but an earlier  generation.  77-early 80s.    never in bands buts friends with lots of west Sacramento and Stockton  bands and the lager bands coming through.    It was too bad about all the drugs, luckily they never interested me.  Just last week a local drummer here died. at 62, don't think he ever stopped drinking.  One of the Sacramento bands, Sewer Trout had a lead singer who was a good climber.  He had his band rerecord their first cassette as The New Vulgarians and did all climbing songs. Sadly he killed himself I think in the late 90's.   

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« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2018, 08:26:57 AM »
So, Brad at heart is a BAP

OWN IT!  :lol:
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« Reply #50 on: April 15, 2018, 08:36:11 AM »

Speaking of guidebooks, we met some nice kids by the Res yesterday on our way out and talked their ears off. Chris was a knowledgeable young man from Berkeley with 4 young ladies in tow.  :ihih: He had a fresh-looking copy of the guidebook and we proceeded to share lots of route info and tips with them. I hope they made it up to The Sisters for some more fun to end their day and maybe we'll hear from them on here.
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« Reply #51 on: April 15, 2018, 09:04:04 AM »
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One of the Sacramento bands, Sewer Trout had a lead singer who was a good climber.  He had his band rerecord their first cassette as The New Vulgarians and did all climbing songs. Sadly he killed himself I think in the late 90's.    

Jim and his brother Hal are old friends of mine too!  I once went on a tour to the Pacific Northwest with one of Hal's bands The Lizards.  We stayed at Jim's house in Portland.  They are two of the funniest and fun people to hang out with.

Sacramento and Stockton had a great punk scene in the nineties.  Somewhere I have a family tree type diagram of Sacto bands which shows that everybody  played in each other's bands.( Kind of like Pinnacles FA's)Great place to visit for house parties. I like the bands NAR, Pounded Clown, Sea Pigs, LIZARDS,  Bananas,Horny Mormons.

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  Just last week a local drummer here died. at 62, don't think he ever stopped drinking 
Sad news. Was it Dave from the Sea Pigs?  Amazing drummer!



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Re: All the Pretty Guidebooks
« Reply #52 on: April 16, 2018, 02:17:29 PM »
Tim Terral (sp)  He was into punk very early  77 or so.  He was 62 years old, a couple of years older than me even.  I did not know him until a couple of years later.   He played in a  Stockton band the authorities but he played in all types of bands thought the 80's  I think, but am not sure drink got the best of him.   The bands names all sound familiar but I was more involved in an earlier generation.   One of my best friends started and ran Club Minimal in Sac. (Stewart Katz) throughout the early 80's.