Author Topic: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot  (Read 6088 times)

Brad Young

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Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« on: March 15, 2020, 10:05:28 AM »
It's route number 611 in the 2007 book. The first ascent is credited: "unknown, probably Brad Young, Clint Cummins, 11/2005."

The first ascent information matters, because I've now changed the route.

As the years have passed, I've realized that this November, 2005 effort really was the FA. We claimed "probably" then because the route is just so obvious from the trail. But no-one has brought out other information since then, and if a route being obvious from the trail disqualifies it as an FA, well, the implications are obvious. The new book first ascent entry for this route will read: "Brad Young, Clint Cummins, 11/2005."

After concluding that this really was the first ascent (and likely still the only-ever ascent), I thought about how we used the tree to protect the 25 foot high, starting water chute. It's not just an issue of using a tree either. On the first lead, after talking with Clint, I climbed an easier face about 25 feet to a tree that is well up and right from the main climbing line. I used three or four slings tied together from this tree to reach fairly low onto the chute that is the line. I then down climbed to the base and climbed the water chute.

We thought of this as a rope trick that let us "avoid placing bolts."

But as more time goes by, this looks like less of a rope trick, and more like nonsense.

Using trees for anchors and/or protection points seems less viable now than it used to seem. First, it can and does kill trees. Second, years ago I had a 1 1/2 inch diameter tree break off under much less than body weight. I couldn't believe that a tree of this diameter could break like that (I took a 20 foot tumble/fall onto a grassy slope). Add in the distance the tree that protects South Summit Slot is from the actual climbing? Yeah, it just didn't make sense any more.

About a month ago I got on the route intending to add a bolt to protect that chute and make the silliness of using the tree unnecessary. That effort didn't work very well though.

First, given the nature of the climbing and the location of the slings way down from the tree, it became obvious that two bolts would be needed to provide the same level of protection as the slung tree. Second, in a rare and dumb stunt, I f#$ked up the one bolt that I did place!!

So two days ago I went back. The nature of the screw up on the bolt I'd placed earlier meant that the hole was unusable after I removed the bolt. I patched it and carefully camouflaged the hole. In the end I used a new hole and I also placed a second bolt. I'm pleased that the bolts are in rock that is "8" and "7" out of ten in quality (really pleased). Unfortunately the climbing itself is not anywhere near as good as the bolts ;)    The new bolts' hangers are very well camouflaged too, and almost invisible from the trail.

I'm not as diligent about photos on this kind of stuff as is our forum rebolting specialist. Anyone who's made it this far into reading this text will not be rewarded by any visual stimulus. Just the report.

And by this bet: I bet that both people that climb this route over the next 100 years will be glad that I made this effort  ::)



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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2020, 10:19:20 AM »
You are disappointing me because you are disproving my perception of you being insane.  Thank you.  JC and I looked at that route over a year ago and collectively thought you were insane.

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2020, 10:22:26 AM »
^^^

I bitterly resemble that remark.

But at least you used the past tense.

And no matter what happens, Mister Mud is and always will be more insane than me.

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2020, 11:11:04 AM »

 The aberration is there, lurking always as the insanity waiting to manifest in the otherwise overly coherent maniac, Dr. Young.
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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2020, 09:33:40 PM »
Better in sane than outa sane.
Here's to sweat in your eye

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2020, 10:27:46 PM »
Where in the Holy Pinnacles Rule book does it state that conifers make acceptable protection.
I still have splinters in my palms from when you and I climbed Dedalus with the tree chimney start (may said tree RIP).

Better to bolt it.
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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2020, 12:28:26 PM »
 Brad messes up a bolt placement! Wow, I feel slightly less imbecilic with my attempts at learning the finer art of drilling and placing bolts. I’m confident though I will be able to overcome this “developmental delay”.  Seriously though, I have immense respect for Brad’s attention to detail & workmanship. Your a true artist and craftsman Brad!

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2020, 04:48:26 PM »
I'm gonna puke.
Here's to sweat in your eye

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2020, 04:58:42 PM »
 :puke:

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2020, 05:20:41 PM »
No man, I think it’s true...

Brad Young

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2020, 05:25:26 PM »
Thanks, Russ, that was a nice thing to say.

Mister Mud wasn't going to puke because of what you said though. He has a history of many types of instability and this extends to his internal plumbing. The funny thing is? When he "pukes," he pukes mud.

And you, hey Dennis, you'll pay for your insolence....




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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2020, 05:41:38 PM »
PPPHHHHHHBBBBBBRRRRRRPPPPPSSSSSSSSS
Here's to sweat in your eye

Brad Young

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2020, 05:48:34 PM »
See? That's the sound he makes when all the mud comes gurgling up.

BTW, I can't remember whether I posted this question here yet (that's what happens when you're almost 100 years old):

How do you get four little old ladies to shout "fuck?"


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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2020, 05:52:19 PM »
No idea, wear your summer wardrobe to a nursing home?
Causing trouble when not climbing.

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2020, 05:54:12 PM »

No idea, wear your summer wardrobe to a nursing home?


No, good guess. But that's too literally what would happen.

BTW, what's the difference between a literalist and a kleptomaniac?


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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2020, 06:06:19 PM »
Here's to sweat in your eye

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2020, 08:13:07 PM »
What's the difference between a literalist and a kleptomaniac?

One takes things literally.

The other takes things, literally.

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #17 on: March 17, 2020, 08:13:43 PM »
How do you get four little old ladies to shout "fuck?"

Get a fifth little old lady to shout "bingo."

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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2020, 05:33:24 PM »
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BTW, what's the difference between a literalist and a kleptomaniac?

 The literalist gets convicted and the kleptomaniac walks.
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Re: Proclamation Pinnacle - South Summit Slot
« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2020, 01:12:07 PM »
:lol: