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Machete death triangle...
« on: January 25, 2022, 04:48:24 PM »
My good friend had his birthday yesterday and to celebrate we had a nice mellow day in the sun doing the Bullseye/Derringer/Old Original link up.  A beautiful day and a lot fun!

On the decent we came across several bright yellow slings tied through the rings with the American Death triangle.  Weird and WTF??  We didn't have a knife but untied and removed the ones we were able to get the knot undone.

Did someone think they were doing a community service?  As far as I know the ADT is still considered an unsafe form of rigging, am I right on this??

Im trying to post a photo for dramatic effect but not too successful.  We did text Brad a pic so he saw it.

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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2022, 04:56:50 PM »



Yes, WTF barely begins to describe this. Since my mom would want me to say something nice, how about this: at least they got themselves down without calling for a rescue?

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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2022, 04:58:00 PM »
Russ, next time you want to post photos, text me or call. I'll walk you through the process (it is not that hard IF you are used to it).


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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2022, 05:02:58 PM »
I blame F4. His brand high Vis too!

Pretty lame ADT placement I  agree. That said, while I
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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2022, 06:04:12 PM »
^^^

squiddo does not realize contractions are strictly verboten.

I will be glad to pose multiple hypotheses for this mystery.
The gyms teach anchoring classes and emphasize equalization. So does the AMGA.
Anchoring books stress equalization.
The climbers were engineers and did not like the angle of the dangle.
Someone was in the mood to use some webbing they have been carrying for ages.
They needed practice tying water knots.
They wanted to spruce up the gully with some color.
They wanted to increase the visibilty of the anchor - the small red pieces of webbing evidently were not bright enough.

They wanted to test the death triangle to see if it is a hoax (they like conspiracy theories).

Now the real question is how much webbing was on the oak tree in the meadow?

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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2022, 06:07:21 PM »
Totally bommer!!
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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2022, 07:32:49 PM »
Brad, thanks for the offer I will surely take you up on that.  The problem was I did not know how to shrink the size so it would post.  John, in answer to your question about at the oak tree, there were several wraps of the same yellow webbing at the base of the tree.  We did leave that in place. 

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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2022, 08:09:21 PM »

 I do remember watching the hangers flex towards each other on Lena's Lieback.l a few decades ago.
Causing trouble when not climbing.

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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2022, 09:31:36 PM »
I do remember watching the hangers flex towards each other on Lena's Lieback.l a few decades ago.

Ha nice one, such a great route. Flex away!
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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2022, 08:35:02 AM »
John, in answer to your question about at the oak tree, there were several wraps of the same yellow webbing at the base of the tree.  We did leave that in place.

We always strip anything on that tree to discourage that descent.

Maybe they were tying a yellow ribbon round the old oak tree.

Too bad they didn't use any rap rings for your booty stash.

I always carry some dark webbing, aluminum rings, screwlinks, a wrench and a knife  :yesnod: :thumbup: :ihih:

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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2022, 09:29:00 AM »
Hate that decent

I prefer to go over the other side via Rock Around the Clock and WestFace.
You end up by Corona. But for full disclosure I am very familiar with the West Face routes and have done such shenanigans a few times.
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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2022, 04:11:51 PM »
^^^

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                 New challenge - finish all of F4s posts...
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« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2022, 05:06:10 PM »
Jeezus!!

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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2022, 08:36:09 PM »
Clint would have bootied that webbing.
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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2022, 08:36:38 PM »
I usually carry a knife, but in a classic Murphy"s law moment the time it would have been useful I did not have it.  We debated pulling the webbing from the tree but were unsure if that would be a dickish move.  Guess it would not have been, it seems that rapping from that tree would be time consuming and a pain (and bad for the tree).  I too dislike that decent, it's kind of like putting your vacation on a credit card, the fun part comes first but the payback comes later.

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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2022, 09:02:00 PM »

Clint would have bootied that webbing.


And he'd still be using it ten years from now  ;)

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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2022, 09:02:22 PM »
The last time I did it my wife got Poison Oak.
I gave it to her from an encounter with a PO branch.
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« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2022, 09:24:13 PM »
I usually carry a knife, but in a classic Murphy"s law moment the time it would have been useful I did not have it.  We debated pulling the webbing from the tree but were unsure if that would be a dickish move.  Guess it would not have been, it seems that rapping from that tree would be time consuming and a pain (and bad for the tree).  I too dislike that decent, it's kind of like putting your vacation on a credit card, the fun part comes first but the payback comes later.

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« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2022, 08:11:32 AM »
I usually carry a knife

I'll remember that.
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Re: Machete death triangle...
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2022, 10:02:06 AM »
While it's not a good anchor for several reasons, the ADT isn't as magically terrible as it's been laid out to be. It's entirely possible to descend off it and not have a problem. If you're interested strictly in issues of the forces applied to the anchor bolts and nothing else (like how one chop and this whole thing just fails) How Not 2 Highline did some force tests on the ADT on Youtube recently.