Best Route at the Pinnacles

[F4?]

Lava Falls

[JC w KC redux]

Is it Pinnacles or THE Pinnacles?

Rock Bottom. Hands down. End of thread.

[F4?]

What are you grammar Sally?

The objective is to have a healthy debate about if you visited the Pinnacles

[JC w KC redux]

What are you grammar Sally?

Not at all. I don't do lost causes (grammar these days). The use of the the has been a topic of some interest with a certain someone (but if you have to explain a joke...).

The objective is to have a healthy debate about if you visited the Pinnacles

Or debates.

[NOAL]

 Calling all masterdebaters.

[clink]

 Hey F4, that lazy eye of yours musta drifted left because you certainly meant to say Shake and Bake.

 Masterdebaters(also referred to as poundits) may now zoom on with The Second Best Route discussion.

[F4?]

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[Zay]

Machete Direct.

It has everything that makes Pinnacles Pinnacles.

Aid.

Runout.

Loose Rock.

Good climbing.

Striking line.

Gear protected sections.

Relatively long route (for Pinns), climbing the largest and most formidable looking formation.

I really can't think of another route besides maybe Son of Dawn that captures every essence of Pinnacles Climbing.

[mungeclimber]

What are the conditions of satisfaction for

[clink]

 Machete Direct gets one star for the first ascent team, and one star for being able to view Shake and Bake?
 Oh, by golly, Machete Direct has 3 stars?! It must get the 3rd star for joining the West Face, which goes to the top, but doesn't have a star.
Was this because one of the FA teams was famous and the other team was...?
 For myself, having done the West Face route a year before Machete Direct, I considered the four pitches a variation to the West Face.
 I also liked the later added direct/direct start, bypassing the oak tree and eventually combining the first two pitches to avoid the hanging belay.
 My favorite memory was a night ascent with Geoff Norris. He forgot his headlamp and we brilliantly had waited for a full moon, which doesn't clear the ridge for a few hours after sunset. So the leader had the light and the follower used braille. By that point we about had the route memorized. We didn't tell our boss and faked being fully alert during work.
 
 If Machete Direct(2.49 stars) gets 3 stars, then Shake and Bake, Son of Dawn Wall and 55 other routes deserve 4.
 Just making noise, like babies and old men do.

[Brad Young]

Down here for the "old mans'" week of pinnacles climbing. Six old guys (I'm the youngest) climbing and my dad too. Caleb thinks that I resemble my dad. I told him that I think he resembles Clink.

Waldo will join us tomorrow to make seven old guys. When we climb tomorrow we'll have over 300 years of cumulative climbing experience.

We're not doing Machete Direct though.

[mynameismud]

I lean toward lava falls

[JC w KC redux]

Machete Direct gets one star for the first ascent team, and one star for being able to view Shake and Bake?
 Oh, by golly, Machete Direct has 3 stars?! It must get the 3rd star for joining the West Face, which goes to the top, but doesn't have a star.
Was this because one of the FA teams was famous and the other team was...?
 For myself, having done the West Face route a year before Machete Direct, I considered the four pitches a variation to the West Face.
 I also liked the later added direct/direct start, bypassing the oak tree and eventually combining the first two pitches to avoid the hanging belay.
 My favorite memory was a night ascent with Geoff Norris. He forgot his headlamp and we brilliantly had waited for a full moon, which doesn't clear the ridge for a few hours after sunset. So the leader had the light and the follower used braille. By that point we about had the route memorized. We didn't tell our boss and faked being fully alert during work.
 
 If Machete Direct(2.49 stars) gets 3 stars, then Shake and Bake, Son of Dawn Wall and 55 other routes deserve 4.
 Just making noise, like babies and old men do.

Someone who climbs in the dark trying to make sense of/apply logic to the star system.

Redefining oxymeanderthal.

[JC w KC redux]

Caleb thinks that I resemble my dad. I told him that I think he resembles Clink.

A Meanderthal (love child of Robert Duvall and a silverback gorilla)

versus the love child of Karl Malden and Jimmy Durante.

No resemblance and more than six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.

[clink]

I lean toward lava falls

 When climbing Shake and Bake, I would also occasionally lean toward Lava Falls.

[clink]

A Meanderthal (love child of Robert Duvall and a silverback gorilla)

 I'm telling my mom on you!

 (I did made the mistake once of saying, in front of my sister-in-law, that my nephew looked like the love child of Andrew Jackson and a badger.)

[JC w KC redux]

Lord of the Flies





Offspring when a Beatnik meets a Billboard

[F4?]

Rough look bunch.

Klink, you wearing glasses to look smart? Educated?

[waldo]

When climbing Shake and Bake, I would also occasionally lean toward Lava Falls.

I've often leaned that way myself.

[JC w KC redux]

I'm telling my mom on you!

Uh oh.

Ya might wanna dial back the toxic masculinity.