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« on: February 12, 2007, 10:57:29 AM »
Well, what should qualify one to be termed a Master of Mud?

By default Mr Mud an Brad qualify...

Followed Mr Mud on a new route?
Taken a lead fall when a hold broke?
Followed Brad on an Obscure route that was fogotten on purpose?
Visit the Pinnacles more than 5 times a year?
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2007, 11:32:45 AM »
I've done all but the third one. I think mostly you've got to love the place, and love the way climbing is done there.

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2007, 01:55:02 PM »
visit regularly
participated in a least 1 fa
climb on obscure routes
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2007, 02:06:45 PM »
Lived there for ten years?

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2007, 02:17:31 PM »
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Lived there for ten years?


Hmmm, might have to think on this one.  While living in the park  and climbing routes no one does today would qualify.
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2007, 02:58:37 PM »
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Lived there for ten years?


Hmmm, might have to think on this one.  While living in the park  and climbing routes no one does today would qualify.


Free-soloing First Sister, Flip-a-Coin Chimney, and Nipple Jam...when I was nine years old, does that qualify me?

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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2007, 03:24:58 PM »
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Free-soloing First Sister, Flip-a-Coin Chimney, and Nipple Jam...when I was nine years old, does that qualify me?


Sure, just wanted to give you a hard time.  :lol:

Now if the owner of this esteemed site would get some t-shirts made up then we'd be set.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2007, 06:51:48 PM »
And what about honorary Masters?

I don't know Karl, for example (I think we met when you were putting up Gorillas?). But he seems like he should be at least an honorary Master - not because he's done a ton of Pinns stuff, or anything obscure, or any of the other qualifications (maybe he has, but I don't know). Instead, he should get honorary status because he came late to Pinns as a strong climber and embraced its adventure ethic, putting up decent, hard routes on lead. I've admired that for as long as I've known of him.

Steve Dawson for sure. The guy's done maybe 25 routes at Pinns (a few of which were obscurities with me). But he's worked on the computer, day by day, shoulder to shoulder, page by page assembling the book with me. His lack of Pinns experience has actually benefitted the book - occasionally he'll look at some of my text and compare it to a topo, and make me redo it because it's not clear enough for him. I know the areas almost too well, whereas he brings a climbers eye to the process, but one that isn't intimately familiar (yet) with the place.

And Jennifer Wang, who none of you know, but who has spent many, many days during the last two seasons tramping all over, learning what ticks are, following me up the most obscure stuff, all with a great sense of humor.

And, Mudworm, who's a great climber, ever so smart, but hasn't got a lot of Pinns experience. Yet she's married to the ultimate Master of Mud himself, and supports his fixation. And, all this after he broke her finger so she couldn't climb harder than he can.

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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2007, 07:10:20 PM »
doh, broken finger!
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2007, 07:39:14 PM »
None of you are masters only me.  Me, ME it is all about ME.

DIE
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2007, 09:49:25 AM »
so swole! or swollen head, not sure which. ;)
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2007, 01:47:00 PM »
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None of you are masters only me. Me, ME it is all about ME.


You are the Grand Phooba (sp). The high preist of the Mud. You have the mug to prove it. Or does Ubber?

Additional qualifications:
Lead a route either on Knuckle Ridge or the Frog.
You spend more time on the West side than the east.
You've removed ticks with your teeth.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2007, 01:47:17 PM »
All the above.
I'm who i am.

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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2007, 01:49:47 PM »
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I don't know Karl, for example (I think we met when you were putting up Gorillas?). But he seems like he should be at least an honorary Master - not because he's done a ton of Pinns stuff, or anything obscure, or any of the other qualifications (maybe he has, but I don't know). Instead, he should get honorary status because he came late to Pinns as a strong climber and embraced its adventure ethic, putting up decent, hard routes on lead.


Karl qualifies on the basis that he keeps putting up 11s so Mr Mud can never claim to have done all the 11s in the monument. :lol:

Can't forget Clint and Bruce.
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2007, 02:32:35 PM »
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Karl qualifies on the basis that he keeps putting up 11s so Mr Mud can never claim to have done all the 11s in the monument.


I only put up one 11.  Is this wishfull thinking?

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2007, 02:33:13 PM »
Almost all of the above too. I think Mr Mud and I have each led every route on Knuckle Ridge and The Outcast (Mr Mud put up half of them). And almost every one on The Frog. No ticks with my teeth, although I've pulled 12 off my pants at one halt before.

Clint and Bruce are charter members.

Another qualification: Climbed many, many days at Pinns and done nearly zero routes in Bear Gulch (this is Uber all over).

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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2007, 02:38:34 PM »
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You've removed ticks with your teeth.


The only tick that I have had to remove (and not just brush off) was in my inner thigh, under my leg loop.  I just lowered off something on discovery wall and felt terrible pain.  I pulled my pants down and pulled the deer tick out with my nails.  Only 1/4 was still showing.

Now, if I could have pulled that out with my teeth, I would be more than a master of mud.  Come to think of it, I doubt I'd ever leave the house.

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« Reply #17 on: February 14, 2007, 06:47:07 AM »
:shock:  :shock:  :shock:
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« Reply #18 on: February 14, 2007, 10:17:42 AM »
Karl,
You put up Gorillas in the Moss.  Isn't that rated 12d?  Didn't you put that up;
Ground up, drilling by hand?
If that data is correct, you are personally responsible for establishing the most difficult ground up, hand drilled route at the Pins.
I still have not figured out the sequence for the moves past the bottom of the route, which is the crux for me.
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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2007, 12:19:24 PM »
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Karl,
You put up Gorillas in the Moss.  Isn't that rated 12d?  Didn't you put that up;
Ground up, drilling by hand?


I did put it up.  Ground up, from stance and aid, drilling by hand.

The route is at least 12d.  I climbed it two weeks ago to give my friend the beta.  He then climbed it and we think it might really be .13a.  

My buddy thought it was definitely harder than Zippity Do Da (I did it so long ago, I can't remember).  Also, harder than Ranger Bolts.  I'd have to agree that it feels harder than Ranger Bolts, but that one move (on RB) is so hard for me that I can't tell.

After my hand recovers from surgery, I'll climb all three routes and see.

P.S. -- .12d or .13a, it doesn't matter because it's not an 11.  Isn't the goal  all the 11's in the park?